($11) KQ is so purdy.

From memory.

$10+1 PP Blinds are 75/150.

I'm estimating stack sizes of the others not involved but they are very close.

UTG t2400
MP t650
Bttn t2000
SB t1500
Hero BB t900

Hero is BB with KQo

UTG raises t300, 3 folds, Hero?

UTG was by far the loosest player at the table and had VPIP over 50%. The minraise threw me. I think a push is mandatory for me in this spot, but I'm not sure if folding is OK. I have 750 after posting.

You say UTG is very loose, but is he raising much? If he's been loose-passive, then this raise scares me. You'll surely be called if you push, and I doubt there's much he's raising with that you beat. Probably a race if you're lucky. I fold.

[junkmail3]

You're screwed, and this is a decent/good hand. I'd call and push any flop that doesn't contain K/Q high.

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You're screwed, and this is a decent/good hand. I'd call and push any flop that doesn't contain K/Q high.

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Good idea. I always forget about the stop-n-go. I don't mind calling here and pushing anything w/o a K/Q, which you're check-raising all in. The only flops I wouldn't like would be ragged aces, but maybe he has a big pair and would fold. I'd say this strategy is equally if not more valid.

Your getting over 3 to 1 to call? I think you called it right.. Stop and Go. 600 still enough chips to play with if the flop comes out bad..

[tigerite]

Standard stop and go here.

[jeffraider]

Yeah this is one of the view spots I'll consider a stop and go.

[durron597]

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Standard stop and go here.

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[xJMPx]

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Yeah this is one of the view spots I'll consider a stop and go.

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Could you elaborate on what it is about this spot that makes you consider a stop and go (or what your general criteria is for a stop and go)?

I never think to use the stop and go and think I'm missing out on a lot of opportunities.

[durron597]

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Yeah this is one of the view spots I'll consider a stop and go.

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Could you elaborate on what it is about this spot that makes you consider a stop and go (or what your general criteria is for a stop and go)?

I never think to use the stop and go and think I'm missing out on a lot of opportunities.

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Basically it's when you think you have no fold equity preflop but you think you can get the Villian to make a bad fold post flop. For example, a player raised to 3xBB at the final three tables of the 2005 WSOP. A shortstacked Greg Raymer called with A9, rather than pushing preflop. The flop came KK7, and it turned out that the Villian had 55. A lot of players muck the 55 there (and it's possible he would have on a KQ7 board). But the 55 definitely should call the preflop allin, no question.

[jeffraider]

Sure. Our hand is okay, but probably not best preflop, so I hate a push here especially because we've got so little fold equity. I also don't like folding here because we've got a genuine hand and we're getting better than 3:1 on a call. There are a lot of hands that beat ours preflop that we can make fold for 600 more on the flop. Basically a stop and go here just gives us the missing fold equity we want if we were to push preflop.

I wouldn't worry about missing stop and gos, I don't find nearly as many opportunities that I think are good for them as most people. Nearly every stop and go hand posted in this forum doesn't quite work for one way or another, and I think it's a dangerous thing when overused or used improperly.

[xJMPx]

What about a hand like this? Read on villain is that he'll make this raise with less than a monster.

PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 6 - 4 players (Converter: PGC (http://client.pokergrader.com))

Chip Counts:
Button: 2030 Chips
SB: 3215 Chips
<font color="red">Hero: 1695 Chips</font>
UTG: 1060 Chips

Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif
Blinds are 100/200

PreFlop
<font color="red">UTG RAISES ($400)</font>, <font color="blue">Button folds</font>
<font color="blue">SB folds</font>, Hero ???

[tigerite]

Push, AJs is too strong to stop and go with.

[xJMPx]

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What range of hands do you consider 'too strong' to stop and go with? 99+, AJ+?

[tigerite]

Something around that range. Might include ATs too, depends on opponent.

[jeffraider]

Agree with tigerite (as usual lol), the AJs hand is a push. It's far more likely to be the best hand preflop and you've got him outchipped. Sure he won't fold too often with the stack sizes but who cares because your hand is good.

[jeffraider]

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Something around that range. Might include ATs too, depends on opponent.

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I'd almost certainly include 77/AT as well.

[tigerite]

77's borderline, 88 probably a push aye. AT is 'usually' but sometimes the opponent is tight and a s-n-g is better with it.

[citanul]

if your read on the guy with 1000 chips is that he'll raise utg to 400 with less than a monster, then pushing is fine, as you'll probably even be ahead when he instacalls you.