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golfcchs
11-18-2005, 01:13 AM
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Button (t1265)
SB (t890)
BB (t670)
UTG (t1115)
UTG+1 (t775)
MP1 (t1790)
Hero (t705)
CO (t790)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t100, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t245) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t200</font>, Button calls t200.

Turn: (t645) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)
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Hero check, Button bet 370 all in, Hero calls
River: (t645) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Thoughts on this hand?
handsome
11-18-2005, 01:17 AM
I'm raising more preflop and pushing the flop.
11-18-2005, 07:10 AM
Preflop goot.

Flop I raise full pot.

Turn call.. If I calculated it right, you don't have the pot odds there to call hoping the board pairs. You have 400 left, and it's only 15/30, so It's not that bad situation if you fold this.
mosdef
11-18-2005, 07:41 AM
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I'm raising more preflop

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Why? He only has 700. If he raises more, he may as well push.
psyduck
11-18-2005, 07:56 AM
You played it fine. I might just push the turn since you're calling his bet (got odds to fill up, and he might have have a bare ace).

edit: well ok you might not have odds to fill up but there are a lot of times he has just an ace
eejit
11-18-2005, 04:13 PM
I like the pf raise, but on this scary flop I want to try and end it now, and I'm all in.
citanul
11-18-2005, 04:30 PM
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Hero (t705)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>,</font>.

Hero's chip count: 605

Flop: (t245)
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t200</font>

hero's stack behind: 405

Thoughts on this hand?

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yeah, push the flop.
11-18-2005, 04:38 PM
Preflop is standard. On the flop, there are only 2 logical choices. One is to push, and the other is to check-fold. You cant bet anything but a push here. Anything &lt; 200 is less than optimal on this type of flop, and anything &gt; 200 but &lt; all-in is worthless because your forced to call if he re-raises you. You are putting atleast 1/3 of your stack in. Why not push and gain the extra fold equity? I might check-fold here If I had a strong read that he was on the lone diamond draw. But I wasnt given that here. Therefore, this an easy push on the flop.
golfcchs
11-19-2005, 02:26 PM
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You played it fine. I might just push the turn since you're calling his bet (got odds to fill up, and he might have have a bare ace).

edit: well ok you might not have odds to fill up but there are a lot of times he has just an ace

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By checking the turn I give him a chance to bluff the flush. Where as a pushed Turn will only get called by better hands.
11-19-2005, 02:55 PM
Push or fold are the only options.
PUSH
golfcchs
11-19-2005, 03:42 PM
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Push or fold are the only options.
PUSH

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Per flop, flop, or turn?
mlagoo
11-19-2005, 03:51 PM
the best thing about pushing the flop is you'll get called by a pair and a diamond like, alot. you'll also get called a lot (at a 22) by a strong ace without a diamond. you're not leaving yourself with any chips where you CAN fold the turn, even if the diamond does come, so you may as well stick it in there on the flop.