How I lost $100

[Josh W]

There was a homegame. I lost $x00. That's no big deal, happens semi regularly. But this one particular bill stung.

Let me fast forward. Well, it's still in the past, so I'm kinda rewinding. But mostly fastforwarding.

The game is padugi. It's a rather wretched game, all things told. To those who don't know, A234, all different suits, is the nuts.

If you have no pair, and all 4 suits, you are going to have a legit chance at winning. However, we were actually unsure of the rules beyond that. Does AA23 with all 4 suits beat A234 with only three suits? Nobody was sure.

But we did know that KQJT with all four suits would beat any pair or any three (or two or one) suited hand.

Andy Fox is in the game, and he's doing a good job of pretending he's the fish. I mean, if you didn't realize that I was losing more money than him, you'd swear he was setting records. Remember, I'm fastforwarding. That is, this happened after I lost my $100.

Andy says "So, wait, all four suits is good, right?" After being answered in the affirmative, he exclames "I BET!". Some Sucker then called him.

Andy showed down A36J....with two hearts. NOt that great of a hand because of the two hearts. The Sucker shows a bunch of big cards, but all four suits and drags another healthy pot from Andy.

Rewind.

We just started playing Padugi. Nobody REALLY knows what they are doing. But we all know that Andy is putting money in the pot at a record clip. JustinUnderscoreA mucks a moderately decent hand, after showing it to me.

I look at him as if he's not only got three eyes, but one of them is a trapezoid. What are you thinking? Scratch that...ARE you thinking? He goes on to tell me that he's played with rocks before, and they usually resemble Andy. He knows his hand is no good.

I look at JustinUnderscoreA and say "hundred bucks says he has at BEST a KQ-high hand (of all four suits)". This essentially meant I was betting Andy had a pair or two of the same suit.

Justin now looks at me from his trapezoidal eye, is wondering how I can afford to play poker, and says he accepts my bet.

A few more draws, a few more bets from Andy, and I know he's full of it. I almost felt bad for taking Underscore's money.

Last draw, last bet, and Andy tables some obscene four-suited nine-high hand (no pair).

I still love you, Andy. Just a little less than before /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

Good times were had by all. Underscore even has the money to prove it!

Josh

-The OP thinks padugi is a stupid game.

-He lost a $100 bet to a Justin-something in a most unentertaining way.

[Josh W]

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-The OP thinks padugi is a stupid game.

-He lost a $100 bet to a Justin-something in a most unentertaining way.

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Two statements. One is a lie. The other is hugely contested by many.

Keep up the good work.

[jason_t]

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-The OP thinks padugi is a stupid game.

-He lost a $100 bet to a Justin-something in a most unentertaining way.

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I, for one, truly enjoyed his post.

Also, Cliff Notes acts as a summary, not as a critic.

[GuyOnTilt]

Just a little FYI re: Padooki rules:

I've seen/heard of the game played two different ways. One is that you can only play one of each suit at showdown. The other is you can only play one of each suit and one of each value at showdown. In both variations any 4 card hand beats any 3 card hand and so on. So if you have 2 hearts, you choose the best one to play at SD and the other is not part of your legal hand.

I heart Padooki.

GoT

[Myrtle]

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Just a little FYI re: Padooki rules:

I've seen/heard of the game played two different ways. One is that you can only play one of each suit at showdown. The other is you can only play one of each suit and one of each value at showdown. In both variations any 4 card hand beats any 3 card hand and so on. So if you have 2 hearts, you choose the best one to play at SD and the other is not part of your legal hand.

I heart Padooki.

GoT

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Is anyone aware of a set of published rules for this game?

And, FWIW, does anyone know the definitively correct spelling for the name of the game?

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[TylerD]

Padooki is the correct spelling, its played quite a lot in the UK, but I don't know the rules.

[TheWorstPlayer]

Fossilman made a great post about this game in the recent past (few months ago). Search is your friend.

[andyfox]

1) I only lost 50 big bets in the game. This was remarkable in that I really didn't play as well as that. See 2) and 3) below. I was actually stuck a bit more but Gonores cut me for some chips at the end. Some Sucker cheated for me and I won 7 to 6. I felt bad so we cut again, sans cheating. I drew a 4. And won again. When you're hot you're hot.

2) We played 2-7 triple-draw lowball and, after listening to the rules four times, I managed to bet and called a raise with 7-6-5-4-3 at the end. When my Underscored opponent, who apparently realized he was dealing with an idiot, raised, and I called, he sheepishly said, "You got me, just a jack." I triumphantly laid down my straight, thinking I had a 7-low. Snakehead perceptively said, "You're screwed," Josh asked me if I put him on a full house, and some Sucker said, "nice call."

3) We were playing some hold 'em type game and I made the nut flush on the turn. I showed everyone what I had. Still, I got two callers. I then checked the river (I still had the nuts), Josh, good player that he is, folded his set, and Rick N. now bets. I just call. Rick turns over the second nut flush, expecting to win since I didn't raise. Apparently he was brushing his teeth when I showed my cards on the turn. The group was undecided about whether his bet was worse than my flat call. I felt guilty enough about taking his money, but not enough to give it back. And then Rick was nice enough to escort me to the street when I left, since he knew my chances of finding it, in my condition, were slight. What a guy.

4) Later on I made a 5-4-2-1 padoogie. And finished second. Gabe's promised me he will figure out the odds of losing with that hand. I'm holding my breath.

5) One hand we played hi-low split with an 8-qualifer. I had A-A and the board ended up A-8-6-5-3. I bet and Josh called. I showed my set and Josh turned up J-J saying, distruthfully, "Damn, I had a set too." I grabbed the pot, since I hadn't won one since the Johnson administration (and I'm talking Andrew Johnson) but then it was pointed out that Josh was entitled to 1/4 of the pot since there as an 8-low on board. F*ck him, I kept the whole thing.

I only threw my cards at the dealer once. It was fun. I'm going to buy Ricky Jay's book and practice.

[fnord_too]

Very nice. Much better than the OP, though I like OP's "did you put him on a full house?" quote quite a bit.

[Josh W]

Thanks for this post, Andy. It helps illustrate the point I was trying to make.

I think my $100 bet was +EV /images/graemlins/smile.gif /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Good times,

Josh

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I'll summarize my own way, punk.

[Luv2DriveTT]

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2) We played 2-7 triple-draw lowball and, after listening to the rules four times, I managed to bet and called a raise with 7-6-5-4-3 at the end. When my Underscored opponent, who apparently realized he was dealing with an idiot, raised, and I called, he sheepishly said, "You got me, just a jack." I triumphantly laid down my straight, thinking I had a 7-low. Snakehead perceptively said, "You're screwed," Josh asked me if I put him on a full house, and some Sucker said, "nice call."

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I laughed so hard I cried.... Andy I always love your posts.

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[Myrtle]

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Fossilman made a great post about this game in the recent past (few months ago). Search is your friend.

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Uhhh......Greg & I have talked extensively about the game.

What I was looking for was somewhere where I can find a published set of rules....

Just googled and found this:

http://www.pokerpages.com/articles/players/steve-ruddock06.htm

[tonypaladino]

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-The OP thinks padugi is a stupid game.

-He lost a $100 bet to a Justin-something in a most unentertaining way.

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I, for one, truly enjoyed his post.

Also, Cliff Notes acts as a summary, not as a critic.

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he's not the original gimmick account. the original is "tl;dr" with the cliff's avatar.

[tonypaladino]

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Josh asked me if I put him on a full house,

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awesome. that made me laugh.

[Luv2DriveTT]

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Fossilman made a great post about this game in the recent past (few months ago). Search is your friend.

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Uhhh......Greg & I have talked extensively about the game.

What I was looking for was somewhere where I can find a published set of rules....

Just googled and found this:

http://www.pokerpages.com/articles/players/steve-ruddock06.htm

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Why not just go to the online poker rooms where you can play Badugi to get the rules? Doyles Room (http://www.doylesroom.com/badugi-poker/badugi-poker.cfm)

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[Rick Nebiolo]

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2) We played 2-7 triple-draw lowball and, after listening to the rules four times, I managed to bet and called a raise with 7-6-5-4-3 at the end. When my Underscored opponent, who apparently realized he was dealing with an idiot, raised, and I called, he sheepishly said, "You got me, just a jack." I triumphantly laid down my straight, thinking I had a 7-low. Snakehead perceptively said, "You're screwed," Josh asked me if I put him on a full house, and some Sucker said, "nice call."

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My unforgivable mistake (forgetting that an ace is a bad card for low) was made for the second time in two plays so it's really worse.


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3) We were playing some hold 'em type game and I made the nut flush on the turn. I showed everyone what I had. Still, I got two callers. I then checked the river (I still had the nuts), Josh, good player that he is, folded his set, and Rick N. now bets. I just call. Rick turns over the second nut flush, expecting to win since I didn't raise. Apparently he was brushing his teeth when I showed my cards on the turn. The group was undecided about whether his bet was worse than my flat call. I felt guilty enough about taking his money, but not enough to give it back.

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It was dark and I think I was looking at the other caller when you flashed. Plus my vision AND judgment is deteriorating, and it was never very good in the first place.


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And then Rick was nice enough to escort me to the street when I left, since he knew my chances of finding it, in my condition, were slight. What a guy.

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Maybe I was going to try to borrow money but chickened out. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

~ Rick

[ThinkQuick]

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Josh asked me if I put him on a full house,

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awesome. that made me laugh.

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that was really funny, i actually laughed out loud.. wish my friends were quick like that

What an incredible story. So, in essense, you know more about Padugi, than b*s*ball?

[private joker]

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I'll summarize my own way, punk.

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Also, isn't it Cliffs Notes? (http://www.cliffsnotes.com/WileyCDA/) I believe a gimmick account should at least be spelled correctly.