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J. Stew
10-24-2005, 05:39 PM
Mp3 is tight aggressive
Co is semi-loose passive, 23/0

Normally I just fold the flop, but the pot was pretty big so I figured I'd peel, too loose considering the CO pf cap?

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, MP3 folds.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (9.75 BB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

cold_cash
10-24-2005, 05:47 PM
How many hands do you have w/ the CO?

What hands can he have?

Unless you think his range is a lot wider than I do I think folding the flop is prudent.

deception5
10-24-2005, 05:53 PM
Fold the flop especially since you aren't closing the action, there's a reasonable chance MP3 check/raises.

J. Stew
10-24-2005, 05:57 PM
Yeah I think I still get tied to the pot in my head, I'm like sh*t I raised, I'll peel one, I back into a flush draw and end up losing more money than I should have. ARRGH

10-24-2005, 06:08 PM
I think that you virtually have only backdoor flush outs here and need to fold the flop.

10-24-2005, 06:18 PM
Because you dont close the action and the person who capped pf does, I wouldn't feel bad about folding the flop.

You figure with a cap, he'd have AA, KK, QQ, or AK (maybe one or two more if he is semi-loose). You are essentially dead against all four of those hands.

Fold it and be done with it. Don't go chasing the BDFD.

10-24-2005, 06:31 PM
Nah the call on the turn is super profitable. I think you have to fold the flop though, as you are not closing the action. Even if you were IMO it is pretty slim as I suspect your ace outs are likely not very clean.