Abstaining

My wife asked me what I thought about Bush wanting to spend $135 million on a campaign for abstinence. I hadn't heard of it. Apparently the ads won't mention condoms or birth control. Do you think it's a waste of our money? And one other thing, what do you think about the odds of either of the Bush daughter's hymens being intact? They're not married, right?

just because they're presidential daughters doesn't mean they should be subject to public speculation about their virginity.

Boris is right here. Your comment about Bush's daughters is inappropriate. I think you can question the wisdom of spending millions on a stupid program without going into that. I don't agree with a lot of government spending (and think absitence campaigns are pretty dumb). But don't bring people's family into it. If anything, if you don't like a politician you might feel sorry for what his kids go through. Being a president's kid is unbelievably difficult. They didn't ask for publicity and their sexual experience is irrelevant anyway.

O.K., my bad. Does anybody know how to edit posts once you put something regrettable up? My point was that I would be willing to bet money on the fact that they're not virgins(I'll speculate on it in a less offensive manner). So who the hell does Bush think he is to take our hard earned money and piss it away on something so ridiculous? The moral implication bothers me more than the money, though. It looks like in this case, the Church and State are one entity.

If true it's an absurd waste of money.

This is a minor example of Bush's wasteful socialist ways...not as constitutionally troubling as his desire to fund government approved "faith-based initiatives."

Find,in the constitution,the exact quote that says there needs to be a separation of church and state!!! I'm so tired of uniformed people about this subject that was put into our american sy-kee By the media over the years.


I'll tell you straight up. I voted for Bush. In some cases he has Rocked! In some cases he has Sucked. Don't call him a socialist. Don't call him a centrist. Call him a compromise professional. He is reaching in all directions. Which at first,really dicked me off. Then I realized,it's not all political with him. He's mixing it up. Like the High Desert Poker Man,in a high limit game(like he'd play anything else)da.


He has kept EVERYBODY,EVERY COUNTRY,EVERY LEADER,one decision away from tilt. You know who THis country should really miss?...Henry Kissinger. And Bush kinda reminds me of HK.

As far as The Presidents Daughters go...would you say NO to either of them?


Hell,I still mention my penetration of my High Schools Nobel Laureate(spelling).She was the school newspapers editor,the band leader playing (skin)flute,glee club,4.0 grade average,and all that you can be as a senior in HS.I was just another Longhair. A nobody. What the hell was she doing with me? Her and I were one of the most unlikely pair on the planet. But what does that mean NOW. 30 years later? Nothing. when Bushs' daughters are old and grey,the only people that will mention their lack of their virginity will be the lucky guys who got into their pants.


And as far as the legislation goes.

If I was a politician,presenting legislation concerning the conservation of fuel...I would not take my 87 cadillac into consideration.I would not take my '57 chev into consideration.I would be thinking about the big picture.

Thanks

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."


When congress gives our tax money to religious organizations of which it approves, I believe this constitutes an "establishment of religion." It is not necessary that the selected religion change it's name to "Bushism."

kinda hard to have a human being in office without his/her morals coming into play. that's how we work, and why we vote. We could do much worse than an abstinence campaign. I mean, come on, do you really want all the stupid kids out there having kids of their own? abstinence IS the safest method, albeit the most frustrating, lonely method. sexually active people know about condoms, they know about the major birth control tools. the choice is already made in their minds. abstinence, a slightly less popular choice, is a much better choice in many instances. not only biological, but emotional and social as well.


like you didn't expect something like this...

giving money to religious organizations has nothing to with making laws regarding their establishment. besides, who reads the damn constitution anymore? we've amended it and undermined it so many times since it was written that it barely reflects the legal situation in this country anymore.

and, a health campaign targeting a widely-spread issue (sex and health) and promoting the most odds-on, money favorite, +EV behavior is hardly something the government can be faulted for.

All the stupid kids are out having kids of their own anyway. I sort of expect stuff like this from Bush, but I still disagree with it even though I voted for, and generally support, Bush. It is a waste of tax money. It is a sleight governmental problem, but wouldn't be if they left the problem where it belongs - in the states. The federal government simply shouldn't be involved in teen pregnancy issues in any way. I also disagree with your posts below on the religion issue and funding social programs through religions. I do think this is unconstitutional and bad policy. I also think churches who entangle themselves with governments are just crazy. They will have the government regulating them to some degree or another if they do this. It's bad for both sides. We shouldn't be wasting our money on stuff like this, although we do waste plenty on worse I must concede.

abstinence is a way to put their head in the sand. and preaching abstinence and ignoring safe play education is irresponsible. i admire colin powell for his thoughts on this. the kids are gonna do it anyway. NO MATTER WHAT ANYBODY SAYS....so why not give em some education on protection. thats responsible government. not his exact words, but close.


right on


when YOUR kid gets a crippling/fatal STD, are you gonna be the first one to tell em, 'well, if you only abstained..." yeah right.


if the preventative protection is there, show em how to use it, and encourage the use of it.


b

i guess there daddy shoulda thought of that before he ran for public office. which automatically puts everyone under the microscope. victims of circumstance. oh well.


no way theyre virgins..haha


probably pullin gang bangs at college frat parties.


cant wait for the videos


b

what do you think the administrations' take would be if a bush daughter got knocked up? hmmmm


it may be a whole differnet view then.


or what if one of em caught aids?


its a very viable question relating to the topic and how the administration works. id be fun to watch em scramble to put a spin on that one.


b