10-12-2005, 05:57 PM
Last weekend playing in a pretty standard live 9 handed 4-8 game, with a fairly loose and passive table that makes many dubious calls pf and continues calling throughout to hit their gutshots. Only 2 other players considered tough, both of which folded pf during the following hand:
Hero is in SB with A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif A /images/graemlins/heart.gif
1 call
Hero raises
Next two cold call
Button calls
SB, BB and original limper call
Flop: 3 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 7 /images/graemlins/club.gif J /images/graemlins/club.gif (7 players)
SB checks, BB bets, 1 call, Hero calls, everyone calls to SB who folds (6 players)
I normally raise here, facing most of the table with 2 cold. However I knew that at this point if they were calling 1, they were calling 2, and I was going to wait until a safe turn card hit to raise. Should I still be raising building a pot that is so big no one will fold? Is this almost inevitable at this point?
Turn: A /images/graemlins/club.gif (6 players)
2 checks, Hero checks (?) , Bet, 3 calls, fold, Hero (?)
What should I do initially? Do I raise here or just call when it comes back? The original bettor is on my immediate left but I haven’t seen him raise in 1 hour. A raise here probably gets called around, and I think that if my card hits it could get paid off by a variety of hands on river…
River: 4 /images/graemlins/club.gif
Oh well that sucks.
I guess my biggest question is how to play this big pot on the flop and turn, as I feel like I get too passive when lots of big draws are out…only to see others take the pot with mediocre holdings when the draws don’t totally come through.
Hero is in SB with A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif A /images/graemlins/heart.gif
1 call
Hero raises
Next two cold call
Button calls
SB, BB and original limper call
Flop: 3 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 7 /images/graemlins/club.gif J /images/graemlins/club.gif (7 players)
SB checks, BB bets, 1 call, Hero calls, everyone calls to SB who folds (6 players)
I normally raise here, facing most of the table with 2 cold. However I knew that at this point if they were calling 1, they were calling 2, and I was going to wait until a safe turn card hit to raise. Should I still be raising building a pot that is so big no one will fold? Is this almost inevitable at this point?
Turn: A /images/graemlins/club.gif (6 players)
2 checks, Hero checks (?) , Bet, 3 calls, fold, Hero (?)
What should I do initially? Do I raise here or just call when it comes back? The original bettor is on my immediate left but I haven’t seen him raise in 1 hour. A raise here probably gets called around, and I think that if my card hits it could get paid off by a variety of hands on river…
River: 4 /images/graemlins/club.gif
Oh well that sucks.
I guess my biggest question is how to play this big pot on the flop and turn, as I feel like I get too passive when lots of big draws are out…only to see others take the pot with mediocre holdings when the draws don’t totally come through.