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Peter Harris
10-11-2005, 07:29 AM
The web site says one receives "0.07 of a poker point for every 10c in rake paid". Does this mean
-only hands *i contribute to*,
-only hands i *win*,
-or the usual *any hand i'm dealt in on and rake is contributed*?

Just wondering if anyone has worked off any of their bonuses and how they felt about it. It seems that for each dollar in bonus to work off, the website gets over $20 in rake! I wanted to ensure that I wasn't paying all that $20 per dollar back, ha ha.

What is the max no. of tables you can play on the poker network?
Any comments on H.P would be appreciated also.

Thanks in advance,
Pete Harris

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kylma
10-11-2005, 08:07 AM
Answer: Any hand you're dealt in..

No special comments.. Poker Room skin.. Of course the bonus is somewhat slow to clear since it's so huge..
Some people like the software, some hate it.. I kind of like it.. It's fine when you get used to it.. Color codes are nice in the notes, you can quickly assign green for fish, red for TAG, for example.

Seems very reliable, and cashouts no problems

Peter Harris
10-11-2005, 08:26 AM
thanks for your reply. what is the max no. of tables you can play at once?

Regards,
Pete Harris

RollaJ
10-11-2005, 10:22 AM
I never played at Hollywood, but BetOnBet (PR skin) works on a contributed rake system, so Id email hollywood and find out

Miggo
10-11-2005, 10:53 AM
I figured I'd take a shot at the $10K. I deposited a little over a week ago. I've cleared 7 or 8 of the 180 $50 bonuses so far. You don't have to contribute to the pot for it to count toward the points. Since you have a year to clear the 180 $50 bonuses, for $9000, then they release the last $1000, you have to clear one of the bonuses every two days to get them done in time.

At lower limits, $1/$2 and lower it goes very slow. $2/$4 isn't too bad if you play a few tables at a time. It's not like playing at Party though. Maybe you can find 30-35% of the people going to the flop.

As far as number of tables goes, I think it's at least 4 for sure. I've heard from more than one person who said that you can get on more than 4 if you are on waiting lists for more tables before you join the 4th table, but I haven't personally tried it.

I'm not a great player, but I have no trouble on any of the Party tables, or Party skin tables before the split, but I have a lot of trouble on PR tables. On average, I'm losing $60 in the time it takes me to clear $50. Then I use the player points you earn to play in different tournaments, and finish in the money there to make me come out a little ahead after clearing the bonuses so far. I don't know if I'm going to do this for nearly a year or not. It for sure hasn't been worth it so far. Maybe it's just normal variance, I'm going to play for another week or so and see where I stand, and then re-evaluate. Good luck to you, and let us know if you try it and how it seems to you.

Peter Harris
10-11-2005, 12:29 PM
thanks for the responses people, very kind of you all. I will email hollywood to doublecheck, but i think i'll wait till after my finals in may before i make a concerted push over the bonus!

Regards,
Pete Harris

TobDog
10-11-2005, 02:15 PM
Its not horrible, they did change their point structure, which helps the .50-1 and 1-2 games, but hurts the higher games, also their rake went up recently from what I heard. Their bonus releases in $50 amounts so if you dont like it you are not stuck, you can always leave. If you open up to 4 tables(the max allowed) you can get on other waiting lists, the tables willopen automatically and you can play unlimited(as far as I can tell) tables, if you have multiple monitors its a good thing, if not it can be annoying, I have 3 monitors and if Im not playing anywhere else, I will play 8+ at HP and the bonus will go by much faster that way. If you havent signed up yet, you should look around(like in the classifieds) for a deal on top of the bonus, if you are already signed up you can use their reoload, or BW's reload which is cool if you play that much.

Godfather80
10-11-2005, 06:01 PM
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Its not horrible, they did change their point structure, which helps the .50-1 and 1-2 games, but hurts the higher games, also their rake went up recently from what I heard. Their bonus releases in $50 amounts so if you dont like it you are not stuck, you can always leave. If you open up to 4 tables(the max allowed) you can get on other waiting lists, the tables willopen automatically and you can play unlimited(as far as I can tell) tables, if you have multiple monitors its a good thing, if not it can be annoying, I have 3 monitors and if Im not playing anywhere else, I will play 8+ at HP and the bonus will go by much faster that way. If you havent signed up yet, you should look around(like in the classifieds) for a deal on top of the bonus, if you are already signed up you can use their reoload, or BW's reload which is cool if you play that much.

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Will you explain what you mean by "a deal on top of the bonus"? I didn't think you could get much else going while you were clearing a bonus. Am I wrong?

me454555
10-12-2005, 04:41 PM
Lets say I play 2/4. How many hands will it take me to clear each $50 bonus.

playersare
10-12-2005, 05:01 PM
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Lets say I play 2/4. How many hands will it take me to clear each $50 bonus.

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i'd estimate about 12x raked clear rate for a 15x points bonus on hollywood. so approx 600 raked hands for every $50.

SoCalRugger
10-12-2005, 05:23 PM
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Its not horrible, they did change their point structure, which helps the .50-1 and 1-2 games, but hurts the higher games

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Not true. You get .07 pts. for each $.10 in rake. So at 5/10, where pretty much every pot is raked $3, you're earning 2.1 pts every hand.

I'm clearing the Powerplayer $1000 bonus right now. But I deposited before the point structure changed, so it's a 10,000 point clearing requirement. At 5/10, that's basically a 5x $1,000 bonus. Games aren't as soft as Party, but still pretty good if you choose the right tables. I've heard some people complain about the software, but I've never had any problems with it. I like it a lot better than the Party software.

SCfuji
10-12-2005, 05:49 PM
do you have a mac? the software lags like crazy for me. or maybe i need to download a better java thingy.

playersare
10-12-2005, 06:12 PM
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do you have a mac? the software lags like crazy for me. or maybe i need to download a better java thingy.

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I use the pokerroom java client for Mac on occasion (do 95% of my play on a separate PC at home though). seems like the web-based tables have gotten worse performance wise over time. right now the graphics of the chips and cards were being placed too "high" and being covered up by the avatars (this was actually the worst in 7-stud where you couldn't even see the suits of some of your own cards if you were seated at the bottom part of the table!). and it definitely seems to be more laggy in terms of individual player decisions - this may just be due to the number of people on the network at once, and the numerous skins they have now.

anyway, I try to avoid playing poker on my Mac whenever possible, simply because the hands won't save into PT.

TobDog
10-12-2005, 06:53 PM
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Not true. You get .07 pts. for each $.10 in rake. So at 5/10, where pretty much every pot is raked $3, you're earning 2.1 pts every hand.

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You sure? I thought you could get max .8 points per hand, I dont have it in front of me, if thats the case, it is better, I unfortunately am not playing 5-10.

TobDog
10-12-2005, 06:57 PM
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Will you explain what you mean by "a deal on top of the bonus"?

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The things you get from the classifieds, I dont know the exact structure, but I was told by my PokerNow affiliate(long gone now) that if you have RB, clearing a bonus affects a % of your MGR, so its better to have both, I havent really looked, and dont anticipate much from that while I clear a bonus, I am in the middle of the first 1k and put $ in for the recent 1k, so I will be busy clearing that(Ill never finish it) but at $50 incriments, Ill take what I get while I whore the other opportunities I also have.

SoCalRugger
10-12-2005, 08:22 PM
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You sure? I thought you could get max .8 points per hand, I dont have it in front of me, if thats the case, it is better, I unfortunately am not playing 5-10.

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From the PokerRoom FAQ:

How many points do I earn?
Hold'em, Omaha, 7 Card Stud
0.07 Player Points are awarded for every $0.10 paid in rake. So a rake of $3 will award all players in the hand 2.1 Player Points.

2+2 wannabe
10-12-2005, 09:52 PM
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You sure? I thought you could get max .8 points per hand, I dont have it in front of me, if thats the case, it is better, I unfortunately am not playing 5-10.

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From the PokerRoom FAQ:

How many points do I earn?
Hold'em, Omaha, 7 Card Stud
0.07 Player Points are awarded for every $0.10 paid in rake. So a rake of $3 will award all players in the hand 2.1 Player Points.

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the max rake for each hand is 1 big blind FWIW

me454555
10-12-2005, 11:28 PM
if I play 3/6 does this change the amoutn of hands I need?

this seems like a much better deal than the R word b/c playing a similar amount of hands you prolly wouldn't get the same $$. On top of that, if you 3 table, you can prolly clear this bonus in under 9 months

goodguy_1
10-13-2005, 08:38 AM
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If you open up to 4 tables(the max allowed) you can get on other waiting lists, the tables willopen automatically and you can play unlimited(as far as I can tell) tables, if you have multiple monitors its a good thing, if not it can be annoying, I have 3 monitors and if Im not playing anywhere else, I will play 8+ at HP and the bonus will go by much faster that way.

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can anyone else confirm this: that you can play 4-8 tables on Hollywood Poker or any other PokerRoom skin. PokerRoom used to allow more than 4 than they cut back like 6 months-year ago cant remember exactly to just 4. Are you still limited to 4 on PokerRoom? How about BetonBet?

RollaJ
10-13-2005, 10:18 AM
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can anyone else confirm this: that you can play 4-8 tables on Hollywood Poker or any other PokerRoom skin. PokerRoom used to allow more than 4 than they cut back like 6 months-year ago cant remember exactly to just 4. Are you still limited to 4 on PokerRoom? How about BetonBet?

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B-O-B only allows 4

LALDAAS
10-13-2005, 10:59 AM
To clear the whole $10,000 how many hands will you need at .5/1 level

150,000 ROFL

I might be crazy enough to try it.

10-15-2005, 12:07 PM
The offer states that the deposit can be removed without penalty--that I can deposit $1,000 and remove all or any portion at any time. Is this true? Anybody have any experience with this?

thanks,
tlt.

MyTurn2Raise
10-15-2005, 12:17 PM
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To clear the whole $10,000 how many hands will you need at .5/1 level

150,000 ROFL

I might be crazy enough to try it.

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6.66 cents/hand---better than the supposed party vip offers