Huge Blinds a,j

[Olback]

$22

Do people call here. Everyone had played tight up to this point, but people were now regularly pushing. Is it worth calling here or do i just fold and keep pushing?

I figure a,j must be in front but is it far enough in front to warrant a call?

Also would peoples opinion change if they were in the blinds? or if we were on the bubble?

#Game No : 2832859765
***** Hand History for Game 2832859765 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:16366214 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Wednesday, October 05, 23:33:08 EDT 2005
Table Table 14953 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: thr1314 ( $1520 )
Seat 3: littlefredie ( $2415 )
Seat 5: Olback1 ( $1460 )
Seat 7: bobblehead31 ( $625 )
Seat 9: Conrad_Peril ( $1980 )
Trny:16366214 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Olback1 [ Js Ac ]
thr1314 folds.
>You have options at Table 13997 Table!.
littlefredie raises [1000].

Olback ??

[psyduck]

easy fold. he was in CO, not the button or the SB, so give him some credit. also, you're not exactly dying with your stack.

[pineapple888]

Five-handed, with <5BB, I'm all in in a nano-second.

But that's just me.

[Mr_J]

Nope I lay this one down.

"Also would peoples opinion change if they were in the blinds?"

I'd definately call if villain & hero were in the blinds.

"or if we were on the bubble?"

Ie you were button and he pushed UTG?? Fold.

[Olback]

That was what I figured.

Also would you call if hero is in one of the blinds and villian raised from the button?

[SammyKid11]

Yeah, no FE plus two to act behind you...you're in pretty good chip position and the raise comes from the second player to act. Fold it. AQ I'm singing a different tune. If both players were in the blinds I'd definitely be singing a different tune (or even if Hero was in the blinds and villain was button).

[caretaker1]

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Yeah, no FE plus two to act behind you...you're in pretty good chip position and the raise comes from the second player to act. Fold it. AQ I'm singing a different tune. If both players were in the blinds I'd definitely be singing a different tune (or even if Hero was in the blinds and villain was button).

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes

[pergesu]

If you and everyone else here are willing to fold AJ, then it's correct for him to push any two hands. Include AJ and now he can only push 48%.

Clearly then, folding AJ is ridiculously exploitable. He has to be pushing 45% or more for a call to be profitable though...so this is where you decide whether your opponent has a clue about bubble play and could be pushing a lot, or if he would still only push his top X% of hands. The more likely you think his cards are the primary component of his play, the less inclined you should be to call.

[pergesu]

I'd also like to point out how much better a call is when your hand is suited. AJs can profitably be called when he pushes with as little as 32% of his hands, as opposed to 45% when it's unsuited. AQo is good when he pushes 29.5%...so being suited here gives you nearly as much equity as upping your kicker, and greatly improves your situation.

Here a call with AQo or AJs would, in my opinion, be very easy. Being unsuited makes this highly read-dependant.

[Olback]

Wow thanks for the analysis!

I do not think any of the people had any good idea of bubble play. Well not compared to 2+2ers anyway.

[pergesu]

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I do not think any of the people had any good idea of bubble play. Well not compared to 2+2ers anyway.

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Considering that I doubt many 2+2ers would know to push ATC if everyone behind him folds AJ, it's a safe assumption that this guy doesn't know either. Then it's a good assumption that if he's not pushing ATC, he's probably not pushing the top 48% either...making a fold here without a doubt the superior play.

[Olback]

Yeah i folded. Villian had a,k.

Shorty had 9,9 or something as well.

That was another reason to fold. We were still 5 handed and shorty was getting nice odds to call. Therefore villian should have had a big hand to push there.