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Interested
10-04-2005, 09:35 AM
Hi all,

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. MP1 posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP1 (poster) calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

I'd like to discuss my preflop fold despite of 3-bet. Is it OK or too tight?
I'm asking because JTs will flop 2 pair or better + flush/straight + theser draws about 24.7%. And odds against it are 3.05:1. And pot odds giving me 11$ on my 3 call that's 3.66:1. Is it enouph to make this call. So this is the questions. Comments?

The other side is that PF Raiser is some kind tight vpip 14/ pfr 3.
Poster loose pasive and BB is 24/12.
So is this info any change my decisions?

10-04-2005, 09:47 AM
Regardless of the BB 3-bet, you're getting less than 4:1 when it's up to you. You're out of position, and there are only two other people in the pot at this point. Pretty easy fold.

sy_or_bust
10-04-2005, 09:51 AM
Fold. Your relative position is valuable, but you still need better odds, especially with a tight BB.

10-04-2005, 11:42 AM
Pretty easy fold IMO. Raiser is tight so you have to put him on a big hand. AA-JJ or AK. With only a 3 pfr% you may want to even discount JJ. Plus you are not closing the action. you have 24/12 BB behind you so the possibility of having to call 3 is very really. I would want to see a couple more cold callers in this situation to make this call.

SeaEagle
10-04-2005, 12:22 PM
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I would want to see a couple more cold callers in this situation to make this call.


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flair1239
10-04-2005, 01:09 PM
Against a tight PF raiser, I am very reluctant to make this call from anywhere.

Against a confirmed 3% PFR I might even be reluctant to be the third player in even if I was on the button.