October bonuses on Multi...

[Wabby]

The party goes on...

http://www.multipoker.com/en/events/event.php?page=reloadmadnessoct

[boose_bagina]

do these overlap each other?

[JayLeno]

No thanks!!!!!
Too many hands - too short time = too bad offer!
I stick to Crypto: it must be 5-10 times easier - and BET365
for only 500 hands. F... offffff multipoker

[SinCityGuy]

20X?

You'd be better off working in a sweatshop in Sri Lanka.

[Tk79]

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do these overlap each other?

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I just finished all these bonuses from last month at 8:57 last night. This is the first time I'm actually unhappy to see a bonus come out. Here we go again I guess.

[gila]

Yea, boo, I was ready for vacation. Oh well, I just got these done on Monday, guess I will start again. This is a no-brainer for me with rb on MP as well.

[gildwulf]

Dumb questions:

1) can you cash out at all and cash back in during this period

2) Which is better.... 27% RB + Multipoker bonuses or 30% RB and no bonuses? Can anyone do the math on that? I'm dumb.

[EvanJC]

i think rakeback + bonus is better, but someone smarter would know for sure.

[timprov]

Algebra, baby:

(M - 1500) * 27% + 1500 = M * 30%, where M is the breakeven point for MGR. So .27M + 1095 = .30M, or .03M = 1095, or M = $36,500. So if you're generating more MGR than that, choose 30% rakeback.

[Wabby]

I cashed in and out multiple times with no problems.

Their bonuses are 20x, which means they are almost sure to earn money. Hence they may not be as restrictive as others, that fear the bonushunters.

[uaw420rook]

does not look goot to me. too many hands needed. what is the lowest limit you have to play

[kruschel]

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does not look goot to me. too many hands needed. what is the lowest limit you have to play

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You can play any limit.
In NL a $1 pot is counted as raked, so starting from 50NL upwards, every flop is a raked hand.
Compared to Prima/Absolute/Paradise 10x Boni this isnt too bad (since there you need a $5 pot/25c rake).
As I said: this is for NL. I have no idea how this compares on Limit tables as I don't play Limit.

[Smackdab]

I decided WTF, I'm gonna play anyway and $500 is $500. So I deposited and entered the bonus code but it does not show up in my pending account. Anyone else have this problem?

Yes, I did alreadyy email support but you know how that goes. They'll get around to it sometime in the next week.

[BluEsiNsOuL]

Thanks! I might not be able to clear all of them, but I'll try to do 3 or 4.

[twolf]

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Anyone else have this problem?


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No.

I also have a tiny problem. My bonus for last month should have expired for the last two bonuses($200/$100) that I had about 36 hours ago but they are still listed as pending so I wrote to Multi to try to get them expired so I can start clearing this months bonuses. Blah. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Uglyowl]

Wow, I should try getting an account there. I love playing at Party!

[Wabby]

I just cleared my last bonus about 30 hours after it expired. It seems they are generous on that part. If you are reasonable close, try to clear it.

However I see your problem, if you still have a 10.000 hand raked bonus there and they remove it tomorrow.

I guess you will just have to wait a day or two.

[twolf]

they emailed back within 1/2 hour and agreed to call it expired and just forward to the Oct. bonus.

After I cleared the last bonus I started playing the $50 PLO on Stars and UB as Party rarely has one full $50 going at all. So I had 10 hands of 4k cleared /images/graemlins/smirk.gif. Aren't they kind people.

[2+2 wannabe]

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20X?

You'd be better off working in a sweatshop in Sri Lanka.

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yeah cause making over $15/hour is like working in sri lanka

[twolf]

I figured this bonus to be a bit over $5 an hour. But I could be wrong as I don't remember how I got this number. It depends on if you play SH or full ring because of how many hands you get an hour as well.

[SinCityGuy]

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20X?

You'd be better off working in a sweatshop in Sri Lanka.

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yeah cause making over $15/hour is like working in sri lanka

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You're not getting anywhere close to $15 per hour on a 20x bonus.

[timprov]

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You're not getting anywhere close to $15 per hour on a 20x bonus.

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Not per table/hour, certainly. 4-tabling short it's about right.

[SinCityGuy]

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You're not getting anywhere close to $15 per hour on a 20x bonus.

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Not per table/hour, certainly. 4-tabling short it's about right.

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4-tabling 3/6 SH is worth about $14 per hour in RB, if you're getting 25%. Playing off a 20x bonus at 4 tables of 3/6 SH pays about $9 per hr.

I guess these bonuses might be worthwhile for microlimit bonus whores, but that's about it.

[arod4276]

At 3-6 SH I can get 320 raked hands per hour easy.Your math is wrong. 15 An hour easy.

[emonrad87]

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Which is better.... 27% RB + Multipoker bonuses or 30% RB and no bonuses? Can anyone do the math on that? I'm dumb.

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At 5/10 SH, doing a bonus of $100:

30% RB: $203
27% RB: $257


The bonus and lower RB is better.

[SinCityGuy]

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At 3-6 SH I can get 320 raked hands per hour easy.Your math is wrong. 15 An hour easy.

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You're wrong. You get dealt about 320 to 350 hands per hour on four tables of 3/6 SH. Only about half of those hands get raked. Playing a 20x bonus at four tables of 3/6 SH will pay you about $8 per hour.

[aucu]

20x is a bit harsh, but I'll go for it, maybe not a full $500 in case something better comes along.

[twolf]

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maybe not a full $1500 in case something better comes along.

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You can clear all 5 bonuses or start at the $100 bonus. You don't have to do the most expensive and time consuming one.

[Cry Me A River]

This is an AWESOME bonus if you are a small buy-in player. If you play something like $25NL or even $50NL this bonus clears faster than Absolute, Crypto (Interpoker), Stars, etc.

Unlike these other sites, any raked pot counts not just when the rake hits $.25 or $1. Minimum pots that count at Multi are $1 and these are common even at $25NL, however $5 and especially $20 pots are far less so.

I cleared $300 in these bonuses in Sept, almost entirely at $25NL full table - 7,162 hands total (119 at $50NL, 641 at $25NL 6-handed, 397 at $25PL and 6,005 at $25NL). I was 5.6 BB/100 Hands ($214.22 in profit) and paid $172.15 in rake.

So my bonus was $127.85 MORE than the rake I paid and the amount of bonus I collected exceeded my winnings!

Now granted for medium and high limit players, $300 for 7000 hands probably seems like peanuts and I figured the hourly bonus to be worth about $5/hr 4-tabling $25NL. Again, insignificant for the big boys, but that more than DOUBLES my hourly rate. And keep in mind, for someone with a bankroll in the $500-$1000 range $300 is a significant sum!!!

[Cry Me A River]

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20x is a bit harsh, but I'll go for it, maybe not a full $500 in case something better comes along.

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20X is misleading since Multi's definition of a raked hand is far more liberal than most other sites. On Multi, a $1 pot counts as a raked pot. On other sites it takes a much larger pot (usually $5 but as high as $20) to count.

This makes a huge, huge difference at lower buy-ins!!

[boose_bagina]

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This is an AWESOME bonus if you are a small buy-in player. If you play something like $25NL or even $50NL this bonus clears faster than Absolute, Crypto (Interpoker), Stars, etc.

Unlike these other sites, any raked pot counts not just when the rake hits $.25 or $1. Minimum pots that count at Multi are $1 and these are common even at $25NL, however $5 and especially $20 pots are far less so.

I cleared $300 in these bonuses in Sept, almost entirely at $25NL full table - 7,162 hands total (119 at $50NL, 641 at $25NL 6-handed, 397 at $25PL and 6,005 at $25NL). I was 5.6 BB/100 Hands ($214.22 in profit) and paid $172.15 in rake.

So my bonus was $127.85 MORE than the rake I paid and the amount of bonus I collected exceeded my winnings!

Now granted for medium and high limit players, $300 for 7000 hands probably seems like peanuts and I figured the hourly bonus to be worth about $5/hr 4-tabling $25NL. Again, insignificant for the big boys, but that more than DOUBLES my hourly rate. And keep in mind, for someone with a bankroll in the $500-$1000 range $300 is a significant sum!!!

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nice post, I was going to say the same thing. It'll take about 45hrs/week 4-tabling full ring to clear the entire bonus on 25NL, but if you do nothing but break even, you can take in ~$10/hr CAD, which is about $450 CAD a week, tax free. Seeing how 25NL is also a joke, you can also prob. triple your hourly bonus rate winning there.

I wouldn't recommend doing something like this for everybody because of the time involved, but doing this can be a lot more lucrative then a lot of jobs out there. Plus, combine this with the Party and Empire bonuses and its a decent monthly earning.

[Cry Me A River]

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but doing this can be a lot more lucrative then a lot of jobs out there.

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As coincindes go... I was laid off on Friday from a job paying $11/hr CDN, that's $1760 CDN a month gross, before taxes.

The bonus portion of the Multi promotion ($1500US) is worth 1,743.08 CDN.

Almost exatly the same as my old job. So I'm seriously, seriously considering dragging my ass on finding s new job and spending the month clearing the bonus instead. Even if I just play break-even, I make the same salary as working the day job and hopefully I can at least maintain my mediocre 5BB/100 rate (Hey, cut me some slack, I've been an SNG player to this point, only switched over for the bonus) which would translate into about an extra $1000US.

Intriguing...

[2+2 wannabe]

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20X?

You'd be better off working in a sweatshop in Sri Lanka.

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yeah cause making over $15/hour is like working in sri lanka

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You're not getting anywhere close to $15 per hour on a 20x bonus.

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4-tabling? even at 1/2 6-max you're making over that

[Delzek15]

Ok so right now I play 3/6 full on empire... Would it be worth while for me to open up a rakeback account on multi and to start doing this bonus?

[mosquito]

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Ok so right now I play 3/6 full on empire... Would it be worth while for me to open up a rakeback account on multi and to start doing this bonus?

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Yes.

Anyone think these are going to become monthly

[titans01]

For those of you that have RB, what limit are you playing to clear these? I signed up for Multi a few months ago and did the signup bonus and the IGM bonus. Last month I did a $100 & $200 bonus. I play .5/1 limit and only play enough hands to clear the bonuses. My MGR is always in the negative and I've yet to recieve a RB.

[SinCityGuy]

If a person is already getting RB on Multipoker, are these bonuses deducted from your MGR? If so, then they're definitely not worth it to me. However, if I still got my full RB plus the bonus, then it would obviously be worthwhile.

[1p0kerb0y]

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If a person is already getting RB on Multipoker, are these bonuses deducted from your MGR? If so, then they're definitely not worth it to me. However, if I still got my full RB plus the bonus, then it would obviously be worthwhile.



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I'm curious about this as well.

[celiboy]

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but doing this can be a lot more lucrative then a lot of jobs out there.

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As coincindes go... I was laid off on Friday from a job paying $11/hr CDN, that's $1760 CDN a month gross, before taxes.

The bonus portion of the Multi promotion ($1500US) is worth 1,743.08 CDN.

Almost exatly the same as my old job. So I'm seriously, seriously considering dragging my ass on finding s new job and spending the month clearing the bonus instead. Even if I just play break-even, I make the same salary as working the day job and hopefully I can at least maintain my mediocre 5BB/100 rate (Hey, cut me some slack, I've been an SNG player to this point, only switched over for the bonus) which would translate into about an extra $1000US.

Intriguing...

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Don't forget about EI either man....kaching

[celiboy]

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20x is a bit harsh, but I'll go for it, maybe not a full $500 in case something better comes along.

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20X is misleading since Multi's definition of a raked hand is far more liberal than most other sites. On Multi, a $1 pot counts as a raked pot. On other sites it takes a much larger pot (usually $5 but as high as $20) to count.

This makes a huge, huge difference at lower buy-ins!!

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Are you sure about this....anything under $5 has no rake so how can it possibly be considered as a "raked hand"

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20x is a bit harsh, but I'll go for it, maybe not a full $500 in case something better comes along.

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20X is misleading since Multi's definition of a raked hand is far more liberal than most other sites. On Multi, a $1 pot counts as a raked pot. On other sites it takes a much larger pot (usually $5 but as high as $20) to count.

This makes a huge, huge difference at lower buy-ins!!

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Are you sure about this....anything under $5 has no rake so how can it possibly be considered as a "raked hand"

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This is true for limit games. For NL, however, the games are raked .05 of every dollar beginning at $1.

[titans01]

Is that .05 raked hand considered a raked hand then?

[celiboy]

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Is that .05 raked hand considered a raked hand then?

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I just got this reply from Multi

"A raked hand is any hand in which a rake (house drop) is taken out of the pot. To accumulate raked hands, just participate in hands (any game, any limit) where a rake is taken. There is no rake taken in tournament hands, hence you cannot obtain raked hands through tournaments."

Hmmm, well my plan was to clear at .5/1 limit but with this news I'll hit up $25NL

[titans01]

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Is that .05 raked hand considered a raked hand then?

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I just got this reply from Multi

"A raked hand is any hand in which a rake (house drop) is taken out of the pot. To accumulate raked hands, just participate in hands (any game, any limit) where a rake is taken. There is no rake taken in tournament hands, hence you cannot obtain raked hands through tournaments."

Hmmm, well my plan was to clear at .5/1 limit but with this news I'll hit up $25NL

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Yeah if that's true then it sounds like a good time to work on my NL game. It would seem that at least 75% of your hands would be raked.

[dgoldsmith]

I posted a thread about this earlier today here (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=3557154&page=0&view=colla psed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1).

From one poster's response, it seems that hands raked .10 or more in NL count as a raked hand and hands raked .05 seem to count as a partial raked hand (seems to be 1/3 - 1/2).

[CLC]

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I just got this reply from Multi

"A raked hand is any hand in which a rake (house drop) is taken out of the pot. To accumulate raked hands, just participate in hands (any game, any limit) where a rake is taken. There is no rake taken in tournament hands, hence you cannot obtain raked hands through tournaments."


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I do not believe this answer from Multi is true. I played 1755 hands of NL25 today. PT shows that 1340 were raked, but Multi shows 1263 hands raked.

According to PT:
415 hands were not raked
312 hands were raked for $.05
1028 were raked for $.10 or more

There is a discrepency of 77 hands between PT and Multi, but 312 hands in PT that were raked less than $.10. Maybe Multi is giving partial credit for ahnds raked less than $.10.

[titans01]

Still around 72% raked hands. Seems pretty good for the low NL players.

[Joseph Busti]

Im getting 260 RAKED hands an hour 4 tabling 6 max NL games. Im getting close to $13 an hour from these bonuses.

[jdl22]

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If a person is already getting RB on Multipoker, are these bonuses deducted from your MGR? If so, then they're definitely not worth it to me. However, if I still got my full RB plus the bonus, then it would obviously be worthwhile.

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This isn't correct. Here's why:
suppose your rakeback percentage is 100p (so if you get 25%, p = .25). Suppose your MGR for the month is M and the theoretical bonus is B.
Rakeback alone you get M*p
Rakeback plus bonus you get B+(M-B)*p = M*p + B(1-p)

Since p < 1 you are better off in the second case.

In other words no matter what rakeback percentage you have (as long as it's less than 100% obviously) you are better off getting any bonuses that come along. I'm assuming that your bonuses are subtracted from your MGR and not your rakeback earnings, which is the case for the party skins.

In this case if you get the $500 bonus and have 25% rakeback you gain $375 by doing the promotion. If you manage the full $1500 bonus your gain over rakeback alone is $1125. If you think it's not worth it then you have a lot more money than I do.

[Losing all]

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I cashed in and out multiple times with no problems.



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Can anyone confirm this. I don't really want to deposit $1500 there, but of course I want them all.

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I just got this reply from Multi

"A raked hand is any hand in which a rake (house drop) is taken out of the pot. To accumulate raked hands, just participate in hands (any game, any limit) where a rake is taken. There is no rake taken in tournament hands, hence you cannot obtain raked hands through tournaments."


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I do not believe this answer from Multi is true. I played 1755 hands of NL25 today. PT shows that 1340 were raked, but Multi shows 1263 hands raked.

According to PT:
415 hands were not raked
312 hands were raked for $.05
1028 were raked for $.10 or more

There is a discrepency of 77 hands between PT and Multi, but 312 hands in PT that were raked less than $.10. Maybe Multi is giving partial credit for ahnds raked less than $.10.

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Your portion of the rake has to be greater than or equal to .01. So at NL 6max or full ring, hands that involve more than 5 players would need to have pots >$2 (thus >.10 rake) to be counted towards the bonus. Party skins don't do partial credit. No 1/3, 1/2 nonsense. It qualifies or it doesn't.

Hence the discrepancy. All of this info is somewhere on Party's site. I guess I should have mentioned this in my previous post.

[Jordan]

thank you... someone who actually understands that it is never correct to not take a bonus because of rakeback. it always bothers me when people cite rakeback as a reason to not take a bonus. it is possible to be incorrect to not take a bonus for other reasons, but rakeback can never be one of them. i was going to take the time to post why, but you've already done so. good work.

[CLC]

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Your portion of the rake has to be greater than or equal to .01.

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This part makes sense. I played Full Ring Games, and understand about the less than 5 players part. That would explain why some of the $.05 hands were counted. Did not realize that there were that many hands played with less than 6 players.

[krimson]

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20X?

You'd be better off working in a sweatshop in Sri Lanka.

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20x bonus + 25% rakeback works out to approximately $25+/hr playing 3/6 6m. This is (well) above the poverty line in North America.

[TomBrooks]

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20x bonus + 25% rakeback works out to approximately $25+/hr playing 3/6 6m.

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Based on how many tables and what BB/100 would that be? Cheers.

[timprov]

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20x bonus + 25% rakeback works out to approximately $25+/hr playing 3/6 6m.

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Based on how many tables and what BB/100 would that be? Cheers.

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That's 4 tables and breakeven.

[SinCityGuy]

Yes, I finally see the light here. If you already have a RB account on Multi, then these bonuses are a great supplement to your normal income. If you have a RB account on another skin, but not on Multipoker, then they're not worth playing.

[theben]

bons are good

[IronDragon1]

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Yes, I finally see the light here. If you already have a RB account on Multi, then these bonuses are a great supplement to your normal income. If you have a RB account on another skin, but not on Multipoker, then they're not worth playing.

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Or you could always go for the gold and play more than 4 tables

[gildwulf]

I just moved 6k from Eurobet back to my Multipoker rakeback account. 800/2000 for the first one. Let's grind some f'in bonuses.

[arod4276]

Maybe i am misunderstanding u, but are u saying u can play more than 4 tables at once at multipoker?

No-what he is (probably) saying is that you can play 4 on Multipoker to clear that bonus and play however many you can on whatever other sites you want to get that bonus+rakeback

these bonuses suck!

Don't you people see it, they take to long to clear...... /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[Swedebubba]

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these bonuses suck!

Don't you people see it, they take to long to clear...... /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

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No they don't. At 25 - 50NL these rock. My usual monthly rakeback is $150-$250 but last month I took $1200 off the bonus on Multi.

[CourtJester]

For depositing, is it first in last out, or first in last out, meaning if i deposit for the 500, then the 100, which bonus will clear first, thanks all

[Swedebubba]

First one is First - Last one is Last

[CourtJester]

Thanks, does any1 have a specific order of doing the bonuses, what would be reasoning of doing it from 500-100 or 100-500, i thought 100-500 would be easier, but im not sure i have good logic, thanks all

[timprov]

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Thanks, does any1 have a specific order of doing the bonuses, what would be reasoning of doing it from 500-100 or 100-500, i thought 100-500 would be easier, but im not sure i have good logic, thanks all

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Depends on your failure condition. If you're trying to clear the whole thing but might fall a little short, 500->100 is best, because you have more flexibility at the end. (If you play 28k raked with 500->100, you make $1400, while if you do it using 100->500, you only make $1000 because you failed to complete the $500.)

Basically it's a matter of figuring out what hands you want to be clearing bonus at. 500-400-300-200-100 is going to work best for most people, I expect, but certainly there are some for whom another method would be better. Depends on how much you expect to play.