Poll: 2 questions for ALL STT posters!

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See poll.

[pergesu]

rofl I'm the only motherfucker that didn't lie about being a longterm winner

[Big Limpin']

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rofl I'm the only motherfucker that didn't lie about being a longterm winner

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Perhaps honesty is not such a redeeming trait in poker, my friend? /images/graemlins/confused.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[pergesu]

Okay so it's 5-1 against us right now. That means only 16.6667% of us are telling the truth

[valenzuela]

what are u talking about? really

[swiftrhett]

I finally realized that you can't believe people who say they make money playing poker unless you can make a judgement from other things they say. More than 90% of poker accounts are losing accounts-- the rake is just that bad. So when someone says that poker is their hobby I now feel it is safe to assume with 90% certainty that they lose money. A large percentage of people who lie about their profit can do it so convincingly because they've deluded themselves into thinking that they are a winning player as long as you don't count those bad days.

[1C5]

Yes, but this forum has more winning players as a % than the general public out there.

[pergesu]

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what are u talking about? really

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The 80% of people who said they are winning players are lying.

[durron597]

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what are u talking about? really

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The 80% of people who said they are winning players are lying.

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Well, I voted yes but my "long term" is between 500-1000 SnGs, does that count?

[Apathy]

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what are u talking about? really

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The 80% of people who said they are winning players are lying.

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Define Longterm.

Also I don't think you have to have actually WON in the longterm or more to the point even played in the longterm to BE a longterm winner.

And I better be a longterm winner or at least really lucky or I'm going to be very sad in a year or so /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Sabrazack]

Why is it so hard to believe people are long term winners? I see myself as a long term winner despite my rather crap ROI of 8% over 2500 or so tournaments. That atleast is enough for me to define myself as a winning player.

[curtains]

8% over 2500 tourneys is definitely a long term winner.

[pergesu]

I was actually more just kidding and saying it in spite..

the fact is that most players would consider themselves winners but really be losers. We all know that. Given that the majority of 2+2ers would correctly report themselves as winners, I thought it kind of funny. (i was stoned).

[microbet]

Dude, haven't noticed one of your stoned posts for a while.

[syka16]

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what are u talking about? really

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The 80% of people who said they are winning players are lying.

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no. they just haven;t found out yet

Yep, I voted no.

You could be the favorite at every single SNG you play...but still be a losing player. There are many factors to consider; not just whether you know the right answers to 2+2 SNG threads.

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Yep, I voted no.

You could be the favorite at every single SNG you play...but still be a losing player. There are many factors to consider; not just whether you know the right answers to 2+2 SNG threads.

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This makes little to no sense. True, there's rake; but if you're the best player at all tables you sit down at, you're +EV. Also, knowing the right answer to all 2+2 SNG threads is one of the three steps necessary to be a hugely profitable SnG player. The other two are play as you would tell someone on 2+2 to play and have a sufficient bankroll to start. Given the sufficient bankroll, luck can become pretty insignificant over thousands of SnGs.

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Yes, but this forum has WAY more winning players as a % than the general public out there.

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[splashpot]

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Yep, I voted no.

You could be the favorite at every single SNG you play...but still be a losing player. There are many factors to consider; not just whether you know the right answers to 2+2 SNG threads.

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How can a losing player be favored to win?

[Freudian]

I voted 50%-75%. And I think it is closer to 50%. But like everything else it depends. I think some could be a winner at some limit somewhere but may not currently be a winner where they are playing (Party 33s-55s for example).

[Huckle]

Where's the alternative for break even? I've played 200 Sng's on my first $50 deposit and still at about $200. Maybe counts as winning, but I see it as pretty much break even.

From what I've read most losers (90% of online players?) don't read a book, don't read a post, and don't think about the game the way most posters do. I voted conservatively at 50-75% but would imagine that 90% of frequent posters are winnging players as long as they stay within their bankroll. If you are a losing player who posts a lot on these boards i think you already know why this is (tilt control, playing over the bankroll, playing when drunk etc.)

[Maulik]

When soliciting a response to this question, I think its necessary to define what a 'STT poster' is. Does this include anyone who has posted in the last month, 6, more than 10 posts, 100 posts, etc?

[valenzuela]

I just assumed somebody who was going to answer to this poll, I was right /images/graemlins/smile.gif