Stack size question -- when do you fold?

[dtbog]

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">UTG ($82.33)</font>
MP ($200.05)
CO ($114.65)
Button ($28.26)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($99)</font>
BB ($81.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $4</font>, Button calls $4, Hero (poster) calls $3.50, BB calls $3, UTG calls $3, MP calls $3.

Flop: ($24) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $8</font>, CO calls $8, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $36</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG pushes ($42.33 more)</font> 2 folds, Hero calls $42.33.


What makes you fold here?

I was thinking I couldn't call if we each had $200 more, but this came at the right price.

Comments?

[Ghazban]

If I were deep enough to consider folding, I'd also have been at the table long enough with somebody else who is as deep to have a read.

[Godfather80]

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">UTG ($82.33)</font>
MP ($200.05)
CO ($114.65)
Button ($28.26)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($99)</font>
BB ($81.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $4</font>, Button calls $4, Hero (poster) calls $3.50, BB calls $3, UTG calls $3, MP calls $3.

Flop: ($24) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $8</font>, CO calls $8, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $36</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG pushes ($42.33 more)</font> 2 folds, Hero calls $42.33.


What makes you fold here?

I was thinking I couldn't call if we each had $200 more, but this came at the right price.

Comments?

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The only thing that makes me fold here is a good read. As stacks get bigger, UTG's push seems stranger and stranger and less likely to be from a better hand.

[jkkkk]

I usually lead-call this flop, lead the turn.

How much? I think it depends upon read as well as stack size, without a read I probably fold if someone (unknown) pushes for an extra 80-100BB on the turn. But if you have a read you can get away for less.

[dtbog]

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If I were deep enough to consider folding, I'd also have been at the table long enough with somebody else who is as deep to have a read.

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Very good point.

[BobboFitos]

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Stack size question -- when do you fold?

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sometimes preflop

He was getting really good odds on his suited connects to lay that down preflop, not to mention implied odds.

[BobboFitos]

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He was getting really good odds on his suited connects to lay that down preflop, not to mention implied odds.

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I understand all this. Read his question, then get back to me

[yvesaint]

I dont like the check-raise. It signals strength, and I think you're only going to get called by AA-QQ (if they are donkish enough), a better 6, and TT.

I like lead-call, lead turn better.

[nebben]

I dont get what we can put the UTG pusher on.
Thats weak pf with TT so I dont think youre up against a full house (6-10) also seems unlikely. is he donkish enough to do this with an oesd?
How about the 78s? the good news is, if its a bigger 6-7 connector, you only have to catch one card bigger than his kicker, so you have a chance to catch up.
Could he have say A-6h here?
A-6 is my best guess.