teddyFBI
09-21-2005, 06:24 PM
which stats do you all think is a better indicator of an opponent's propensity to call down with inferior hands?
1. Went to shodown % -- this is the one I typically use more...I figure that solid players shouldn't be going to showdown more than 40% of the time when seeing the flop -- but then I started to wonder whether this was also a function of their VPIP...I mean, there's a few 12/9 TAGs who probably go to showdown quite a bit, since they're so incredibly tight preflop that they nearly always have premium hands so maybe are always 39 - 44%...and then there's 22/11 sl-LAG types who know how to get away from a beaten hand and so keep their WTS% around 28 - 33%
2. Won $ at SD -- shouldn't this be a more reliable indicator?? I mean, in essence it's telling you exactly how often the player is calling down with losing hands. I would expect that most winning players are 50+ in this regard.
Or are these two stats simply correlated to a much higher degree than it might first appear...? I mean, it seems only natural that the % of times you go to showdown will have a substantial correlation to the % of times you actually win.
I don't know -- I"ve gone crosseyed.
What do you all make of these 2 stats?
1. Went to shodown % -- this is the one I typically use more...I figure that solid players shouldn't be going to showdown more than 40% of the time when seeing the flop -- but then I started to wonder whether this was also a function of their VPIP...I mean, there's a few 12/9 TAGs who probably go to showdown quite a bit, since they're so incredibly tight preflop that they nearly always have premium hands so maybe are always 39 - 44%...and then there's 22/11 sl-LAG types who know how to get away from a beaten hand and so keep their WTS% around 28 - 33%
2. Won $ at SD -- shouldn't this be a more reliable indicator?? I mean, in essence it's telling you exactly how often the player is calling down with losing hands. I would expect that most winning players are 50+ in this regard.
Or are these two stats simply correlated to a much higher degree than it might first appear...? I mean, it seems only natural that the % of times you go to showdown will have a substantial correlation to the % of times you actually win.
I don't know -- I"ve gone crosseyed.
What do you all make of these 2 stats?