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Entity
09-17-2005, 07:18 PM
Villain is 55/18/4.4 over a very large sample size. Yes, 4.4.

Pop the river or is this good?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls.

River: (14.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB
7ontheline
09-17-2005, 07:20 PM
Good. Don't raise the river. AA beats you, QQ just smoked you, and a 9 or 88 or 44 are crushing you. Not many hands left he would play this way - hopefully you're up against JJ or AQ or something, but raising is probably spewing.
Entity
09-17-2005, 07:21 PM
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Good. Don't raise the river. AA beats you, QQ just smoked you, and a 9 or 88 or 44 are crushing you. Not many hands left he would play this way - hopefully you're up against JJ or AQ or something, but raising is probably spewing.

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You might want to revisit the preflop action.
jason_t
09-17-2005, 07:22 PM
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Good. Don't raise the river. AA beats you, QQ just smoked you, and a 9 or 88 or 44 are crushing you.

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JT too but I think the hands you list are unlikely for this villain (SB didn't 3-bet preflop).
Mathieu
09-17-2005, 07:46 PM
I would raise this river. By the way the betting went, I don't think you were behind on the turn. So either your opponent outdrew on the river, or he is just donk betting thinking you won't raise (fearing JT).

I think he could play any 8 (more than 32 combos), and JT (16 combos) this way. I am confident that he will call your raise with any 8, and sometimes re-raise /images/graemlins/smile.gif. So from this range of hands, you are more than 2-1 favorite on the river, so raising seems correct.

For the 32 combos of 8s, lets say (86, 87, T8, K8, Q8) are all possible. My guess is that he decided to bet his Queens up /images/graemlins/smile.gif.
Victor
09-17-2005, 07:50 PM
edit: sorry my post was nonsense.

i still raise the riv tho. his hand range is wide given his numbers.
7ontheline
09-17-2005, 10:42 PM
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Good. Don't raise the river. AA beats you, QQ just smoked you, and a 9 or 88 or 44 are crushing you. Not many hands left he would play this way - hopefully you're up against JJ or AQ or something, but raising is probably spewing.

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You might want to revisit the preflop action.

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Um. . .never mind. I'm stupid. /images/graemlins/frown.gif
kahntrutahn
09-18-2005, 01:27 AM
4.4AG w/ 55VPIP? This is your typical 3B turn bluff raiser... I pop his ass every time...
arkady
09-18-2005, 01:31 AM
4.4 AF? Lol, what a clown. Raise the river.

btw, to the first poster to reply to you, congratulations - I have never seen so many adjectives used to describe how one is losing a particular hand. gave me a good laugh.
ggbman
09-18-2005, 01:44 AM
I was gonna say easy call, but [censored] 4.4!? Pop his bitch ass.
thesharpie
09-18-2005, 07:29 AM
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btw, to the first poster to reply to you, congratulations - I have never seen so many adjectives used to describe how one is losing a particular hand. gave me a good laugh.

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btw, congratulations, you mean verbs.