View Full Version : The Value of Mid-PP When ITM? Ask BlueTooth! ($33)
KramerTM
09-14-2005, 07:07 PM
Sorry, title of thread is completely arbitrary and meaningless.
I had been raising a lot once we got ITM. I just raised Villain out of a huge pot on the river. Something feels ehhh here. But I could just be off my game. Is calling this standard?
***** Hand History for Game 2711436572 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:15735772 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Wednesday, September 14, 18:53:53 EDT 2005
Table Table 11182 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 3: HERO ( $3225 )
Seat 4: VILLAIN ( $2810 )
Seat 6: ash_freak ( $1965 )
Trny:15735772 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 9d 9h ]
ash_freak folds.
HERO raises [375].
>You have options at Table 12981 Table!.
VILLAIN raises [2650].
HERO is all-In [2775]
VILLAIN is all-In [10]
durron597
09-14-2005, 07:09 PM
Please put the buyin of this tourney in the subject.
durron597
09-14-2005, 07:15 PM
Raise more to begin with, call the push.
How much more would be appropriate?
Fatdogs12
09-14-2005, 07:20 PM
Interestingly enough you really only derive +EV from this hand if you push and get called. (Meaning in just a push/fold scenario).
If you want to raise him make it a min of 500 but I prefer a push. I mean there is gonna be a wide range you will have to watch out for unless the flop is completely under 9's which isn't super likely.
MegaBet
09-14-2005, 07:21 PM
I simply push preflop here. You don't raise enough here and villain can call with a wide range of hands. I know that didn't happen, but a flop will likely have an overcard to your 9s, and then you're playing a guessing game.
Anyway, in this hand, call the push.
EDIT: hey fatdogs12, we more or less posted the exact post at the exact same time. You must be a dangerous player /images/graemlins/grin.gif
michw
09-14-2005, 07:22 PM
I don't think I've ever made a fold like this in the money.
"Ask BlueTooth!"? Huh?
IF you wanted me to answer your question, yes, push those nines.
KramerTM
09-14-2005, 07:37 PM
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Interestingly enough you really only derive +EV from this hand if you push and get called. (Meaning in just a push/fold scenario).
If you want to raise him make it a min of 500 but I prefer a push. I mean there is gonna be a wide range you will have to watch out for unless the flop is completely under 9's which isn't super likely.
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I understand why I might not want to see a flop here, but do the size of the stacks compared to the blinds still warrant a push here?
KramerTM
09-14-2005, 07:37 PM
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"Ask BlueTooth!"? Huh?
IF you wanted me to answer your question, yes, push those nines.
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Whoo hoo! /images/graemlins/grin.gif
durron597
09-14-2005, 07:38 PM
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How much more would be appropriate?
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Just make it t450. The stacks are still too deep to think about cutting down raise size, *especially* 3 handed.
Maulik
09-14-2005, 07:40 PM
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I simply push preflop here. You don't raise enough here and villain can call with a wide range of hands. I know that didn't happen, but a flop will likely have an overcard to your 9s, and then you're playing a guessing game.
Anyway, in this hand, call the push.
EDIT: hey fatdogs12, we more or less posted the exact post at the exact same time. You must be a dangerous player /images/graemlins/grin.gif
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so if we are pushing w/ t225 here, do we do the same with 99+ or just the more vulnerable hands and 3xbb w/ QQ+?
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How much more would be appropriate?
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Just make it t450. The stacks are still too deep to think about cutting down raise size, *especially* 3 handed.
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I think you misread HH.
KramerTM
09-14-2005, 08:36 PM
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How much more would be appropriate?
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Just make it t450. The stacks are still too deep to think about cutting down raise size, *especially* 3 handed.
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I think you misread HH.
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Now I'm confused. Isn't durron suggesting I raise to 450 instead of 375?
durron597
09-14-2005, 08:37 PM
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How much more would be appropriate?
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Just make it t450. The stacks are still too deep to think about cutting down raise size, *especially* 3 handed.
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I think you misread HH.
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Now I'm confused. Isn't durron suggesting I raise to 450 instead of 375?
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Is the small blind added to that number or not? Damn raw HH. Did you make it 75+375 or 375?
KramerTM
09-14-2005, 08:49 PM
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How much more would be appropriate?
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Just make it t450. The stacks are still too deep to think about cutting down raise size, *especially* 3 handed.
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I think you misread HH.
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Now I'm confused. Isn't durron suggesting I raise to 450 instead of 375?
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Is the small blind added to that number or not? Damn raw HH. Did you make it 75+375 or 375?
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Made it 375 to go. Sorry man... converter ain't working.
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