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fnord_too
09-08-2005, 09:56 PM
Villain is a bit loose aggressive pre flop, super aggressive post flop.
Thoughts?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP1 (t1040)
MP2 (t2020)
MP3 (t845)
CO (t1265)
Button (t930)
SB (t1165)
BB (t760)
Hero (t1000)
UTG+1 (t975)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
Hero calls t15, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t55</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls t45, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t40.

Flop: (t180) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t80</font>, SB calls t80, Hero calls t80.

Turn: (t420) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t175</font>, SB calls t175, Hero calls t175.

River: (t945) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t350</font>, SB folds, Hero calls t350.

Final Pot: t1645
unreal_nh
09-08-2005, 10:02 PM
fooooooooold pf
gumpzilla
09-08-2005, 10:03 PM
Of course the first response would be fold pf. I'm pretty sure I trust fnord's judgment about when he can play this hand preflop UTG. And I like the line against a hyper-aggressive postflop player who'll fire many barrels.
unreal_nh
09-08-2005, 10:07 PM
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Of course the first response would be fold pf.

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lastchance
09-08-2005, 10:09 PM
I hate being UTG with KQo so I fold there.

I think my hand sucks 3-way on the flop so I fold there.

I guess turn and river are fine.
benkahuna
09-08-2005, 10:14 PM
Maybe I'm missing something (hint, reference to fnords), but I think you fold pf and since you didn't you need to do something to find out where you are. Calling passively ain't gonna do it.
billyjex
09-08-2005, 10:23 PM
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Maybe I'm missing something (hint, reference to fnords), but I think you fold pf and since you didn't you need to do something to find out where you are. Calling passively ain't gonna do it.

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against a maniac, you don't need to find out where you are. you let him bluff because that's what he loves to do.

this hand is pretty close, but if you trust your read its ok.
Gomez22
09-08-2005, 10:46 PM
If you feel you have a decent read here, I like this play. This would make a good addition to the thread in MTT about keeping a pot small(ish) and getting worse hands to pay you off.

Either way, I think I like this given your description, but 1 question.... if SB calls the river, are you overcalling here?

PS - I don't know why everyone complains about the PF call.... if a player feels that they are superior POST-FLOP against their opposition, I see no reason to loosen up PF limping standards a bit.
fnord_too
09-08-2005, 10:47 PM
A couple quick comments:

I normally open fold pf here, occasionally I call and fold to a raise. Since the raiser is a bit of a maniac, I already have a plan for the rest of the hand, so I call.

I hate the third person, but since he's being so passive, I'm not too worried about him.

In a cash game I have no reservations about this line, I am not sure it is good here. (I'm pretty sure it is +EV in terms of chips, but I think it is close in terms of cashing ev).

I'm about to finish my second and last set for the night. I'm going to have a beer, watch some adult swim, and play a little EQ2, I'll post the results before I go to bed.
fnord_too
09-09-2005, 12:24 AM
Villain had A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif and mhig.

Oh, and in my second set I had 5 5ths and 3 8ths and I don't think I went out before the fourth level in any of them. wtf? meh.