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kyro

09-07-2005, 10:59 PM

Villain in this hand isn't anything special. A little too loose PF and weak postflop. (Even weaker than me which is shocking.)

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SB ($1641.31)
BB ($382.97)
UTG ($440.05)
MP ($162.48)
Hero ($309.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, MP calls $2, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, MP calls $6.

Flop: ($19) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($19) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP bets $20, Hero calls $20.

River: ($59) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $59

With villain being weak/not tricky, I think a bet on the river after he checks is the best line. Do we agree?

Voltron87

09-07-2005, 11:14 PM

i play it similarly. river check is fine, what is calling a bet here that you beat?

yvesaint

09-07-2005, 11:15 PM

Are you regularly checking behind on the flop, whether you hit or not, after you raise pre-flop?

09-07-2005, 11:52 PM

I like the check behind on the river. Except for a weaker queen, what calls a river bet? I think this is a good example of controlling the size of the pot with TPGK and a pretty sketchy board. NH, IMO.

Don't be so hard on yourself!

wdeadwyler

09-08-2005, 12:43 AM

I dont like this one. Bet the flop. You raised preflop then you hit. Check behind on the turn. If he checks again on the river, bet 1/3-1/2 pot. If he bets into you call. MOst likely he had nothing at all and was trying to steal. As for the river, you definately shoulda bet behind him when he bet, don't give him a free showdown just cuz u are scared you are beat, or you will lose ALOT of value in the long run.

TheRegulat0r

09-08-2005, 12:44 AM

I generally bet that flop.

Given your check, I like the rest of it.

Slappz

09-08-2005, 01:31 AM

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I dont like this one. Bet the flop. You raised preflop then you hit. Check behind on the turn. If he checks again on the river, bet 1/3-1/2 pot. If he bets into you call. MOst likely he had nothing at all and was trying to steal. As for the river, you definately shoulda bet behind him when he bet, don't give him a free showdown just cuz u are scared you are beat, or you will lose ALOT of value in the long run.

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This line is much better.

kyro

09-08-2005, 10:05 AM

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Are you regularly checking behind on the flop, whether you hit or not, after you raise pre-flop?

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On that specific flop, when few turn cards scare me, yes. The 9 was actually one of the cards I didn't want to see.

To voltron, I think a weak Q or a 9 calls a river bet from me quite often.