Losing it at the table

[D.J.]

Okay,
Let me start by saying I've been really working on not going on tilt at the table, but tonight I pretty much lost it. Here's the situation, great 20-40 game, 3 limpers to the button who raises, SB calls, I call in BB w/ Q /forums/images/icons/heart.gif 10 /forums/images/icons/heart.gif , everyone else calls, 6-handed. Flop

J /forums/images/icons/heart.gif 9 /forums/images/icons/heart.gif J /forums/images/icons/spade.gif

Pretty decent flop for me, SB checks, I check, EP limper bets out, 1 caller, Button raises, SB folds, I call, limper 3-bets, Button calls, I call. Turn 8 /forums/images/icons/heart.gif , I check, Ep bets, player folds, button calls, I raise, EP calls, button calls. River 10 /forums/images/icons/club.gif , I bet out, EP raises, button folds I reraise, he reraises, I reraise, Button says out loud, "which one of you has the straight flush?" EP looks at the board, says oh [censored] and just calls. I win of course, and he shows his J-10. I look at the button and proceed in losing it, I think I said something like "Are you [censored] serious?" "Are you that [censored] stupid?" "You've got to be [censored] kidding me", I basically just tried to throw in an F-bomb anywhere I could. After that he flashes a grin, I say "deal me out" seeing how I'm past tilt and probably shouldn't continue playing. I really tried to not go on tilt at the table, but tonight I just couldn't help it, just wanted to let you guys know about my interesting hand.

-D.J.

[DanS]

Hi D.J.,
That guy's an a-hole and cost you either $80 or $160. Your opponent was ready to go off a few more times. But que sera, sera. The only part of the post that really caught my eye was that you got up...cuz the only one you're gonna punish by continuing to play is yourself.

Dan

[glen]

Damn. I'm a rather mild-mannered fellow at the table, but I would have lost it here, too, and I would have dropped f-bombs. I know that. He definitely cost you 80, if not 160 or more here. I don't know what I would do here. I just hope that never happens to me. BTW, good job getting up for a while, after recognizing that you would play on tilt. I've read a lot of your posts, and it sounds like something you might not have done in the past. I don't recall if you left after your flopped quads ran into a royal. Oh wait, I think you were all-in on that hand. . .

[PokerPrince]

Next time you see him there, leave when he leaves and follow him to the parking lot. Let your imagination take over from there. My imagination usually involves a shank or brass knuckles.

PokerPrince

[D.J.]

[bernie]

[bernie]

first time this ever happened to you? or just the first time with this type of hand?

i smirk inside when i see a guy lose it like this at a table. but i also know what it does to the table. then i lick my chops. reacting this way would tell me that other things could affect you also. youve shown a weakness.

there are much better ways of telling a guy to shut up during a hand than to tighten up the table and look like a baby. and yes, that's what it wouldve looked like. a rant is justified, but not of this magnitude. there's no excuse for this type of reaction.

take a stress tab...

there are much worse things that can happen at a table. in some places, some guys would have you sucking carpet thru your ass if you went off on em like that. then theyd just deal around you as you pulled fibers out of your teeth that are all over the ground.

be careful.

b

[astroglide]

i would have to guess that i would have gotten walked out by security on this one for pushing him to the floor. it wouldn't be my recommendation to myself or anyone else, but that's probably how i'd respond.

[Tommy Angelo]

"Let me start by saying I've been really working on not going on tilt at the table"

What does it mean, really, to be tiltless? It means that you have a practiced emotional indifference to bad stuff (and good stuff too). To whatever degree your indifference prevails during crisis, that is the degree to which you have approached tiltlessness.

I am the tiltless high priest. (Or is that high tiltless priest?) I return from Mount Tiltless to ask you to imagine. Imagine the scene you were in. Live it again. Watch it unfold. Listen to the man say these words: "which one of you has the straight flush?." Watch the other man become aware and stop raising.

Now, see yourself, oblivious, aloof, detached, absolutely and utterly ignoring the words that were spoken and the reaction they caused. Gather the chips. Tip the dealer. And I'll meet you on the mountain.

Tommy

[D.J.]

That's precisely the kind of guy I needed to be there, one of those so-called hard-asses, someone to take offense and get physical. That way I would be justified in beating the hell out of him with a rubber hose.

-D.J.

[D.J.]

I don't know if I'll see you up there, that seems like a long way up for me.

-D.J.

[rigoletto]

[angry young man]

i smirk inside when i see a guy lose it like this at a table. but i also know what it does to the table. then i lick my chops. reacting this way would tell me that other things could affect you also. youve shown a weakness.

people talking like this always make me smile, like you're some mastermind who now has the tool he needs to conquer the world; or at least the table. Getting mad at someone who costs you money by breaking the rules isn't a weakness, it's sensible. Personally I hope I would've restrained myself to saying "are you ****ing kidding me? call the floor." but to say there's no excuse for this kind of reaction is ridiculous. And the tough guy carpet talk is really relevant thanks.

take a stress tab...

Is this an attempt to say "take a chill pill" without sounding quite as out of touch?

[mike l.]

"I am the tiltless high priest."

i read this as "titless high priestess" and found the whole post much more therapeutic that way. why is that?

[Inthacup]

Halfway through the third paragraph, I started zoning out of everthing around me and focusing only on the words. All I could see was what you had written. I started becoming detached from myself and becoming attached to the situation you were describing.

The funny thing is...I'm serious.

P.S. My only regret is that you didn't throw the phrase "Calm as hindu cows" in there.

[bernie]

"people talking like this always make me smile, like you're some mastermind who now has the tool he needs to conquer the world;"

nope, but i see another angle to use. another tool in the box against the certain player

"Getting mad at someone who costs you money by breaking the rules isn't a weakness, it's sensible."

there's a difference between getting mad, and being a screaming baby. his overreaction was unsensible. and yes. it is a weakness when you lose control in a game that rewards control. it could indicate a player close to or on, tilt.

"but to say there's no excuse for this kind of reaction is ridiculous. And the tough guy carpet talk is really relevant thanks"

maybe you havent played in some of the seedy rooms i have. that reference wasnt out of fantasy, but reality of some of the things ive seen,(not been involved in) in a cardroom. ive seen players get layed out in the parking lot for this type of stuff. it does exist. be aware of it or keep your head in the sand. ive seen guys go toe to toe over a c/r. good fight actually.

so yes, i do smile when i see players lose it. it breaks the monotany of the game.

sorry you dont like, or are 'out of touch' with how some games go.

but feel free to shout, kick and scream when you feel like it. it's great entertainment.

b

[angry young man]

nope, but i see another angle to use. another tool in the box against the certain player

so what are you going to start breaking the rules of the game in hopes of pissing him off and making him leave? That'll bring in a lot of bets.

there's a difference between getting mad, and being a screaming baby. his overreaction was unsensible. and yes. it is a weakness when you lose control in a game that rewards control. it could indicate a player close to or on, tilt.

he had the control to walk away from the game when he wasn't going to be on his best game. Guess this showed that he's a human being and capable of being upset by something but I usually assume that about my opponents. And the "screaming baby" business is unnecessary name-calling, of course he probably overreacted and I think he knows this but the amount that he was out of line is nowhere near as bad as the hand-caller. Bottom line in an environment where people throw things at dealers for putting the wrong cards out and verbally abuse opponents for not playing well yelling at someone for violating the rules is easily forgiveable.

maybe you havent played in some of the seedy rooms i have. that reference wasnt out of fantasy, but reality of some of the things ive seen,(not been involved in) in a cardroom. ive seen players get layed out in the parking lot for this type of stuff. it does exist. be aware of it or keep your head in the sand. ive seen guys go toe to toe over a c/r. good fight actually.

I'm aware that there are bad places in the world I'm just not stupid enough to go to them. Especially when there are well lit, properly supervised cardrooms where young women will bring you the beverage of your choice.

[bernie]

"so what are you going to start breaking the rules of the game in hopes of pissing him off and making him leave? That'll bring in a lot of bets."

this was only one hand. there was no mention that this player was talking in other hands. and if you notice in the original post, he was on tilt. it does go a little hand in hand with the reaction he gave.

"I'm aware that there are bad places in the world I'm just not stupid enough to go to them. Especially when there are well lit, properly supervised cardrooms where young women will bring you the beverage of your choice."

even these places can have their problems. dont kid yourself. i will say it's a rarer occurence there though. one reason, i believe, is because its a longer walk outside. so the pissed players can cool off a little.

btw...some of the best fights ive seen were in the roulette pit of these "well lit, properly supervised cardrooms where young women will bring you the beverage of your choice."

b

[Inthacup]

btw...some of the best fights ive seen were in the roulette pit

Oh, man. You've gotta tell the story on this one.

[glen]

btw...some of the best fights ive seen were in the roulette pit of these "well lit, properly supervised cardrooms where young women will bring you the beverage of your choice."

Some of the best fights. . . how have roulette pit fights have you seen?

[bernie]

it wasnt good because of blood or anything, but by how ridiculous they looked.

this was at muckleshoot. the biggest casino in the state. i walk out of the cardroom to go to the can, but i notice before i exit the pokerroom that there's something going on near a pit. so i walk out, look over, and see 2 drunk idiots spinning around. both have a hold of eachothers hair at the top of the head. while their other hand is trying to swing at each other. this flailing goes on for abit, then one guy slams the other guy to the floor. his head slams off the rug upon impact with a big thud. followed by a collective 'oooooo' by the onlookers. the guy standing up, rubs his head then starts yelling at the guy on the ground, taunting him with his balled up fists. the guy woozily stumbles up to his feet and starts squaring off with the guy. then, finally, the security jumps in. the security desk was about 10 paces from where this was going on.

we joked that they were trying to make a line on the guys and were taking bets.

now this happened on one of the slowest games in the place. not sure the reason why. but ive also seen 2 other times in the roulette pit where players were starting to get into it. i guess it's a boring enough game that they need to do something to liven it up.

most of the other occurences i saw that started in the cardroom, usually a bowling alley or a room where alot of gang bangers would play late at night, the security usually called the cops so it was broken up before it really got started. but there's nothing like walking outside and seeing the bright blue and reds flashing with one guy, who was just playing in the room, sitting on the curb bleeding being talked to by a cop and another guy, who had left a little earlier after a loud dispute, in the back of a cop car.

sometimes you just cant pay enough for this entertainment.

but it can happen anywhere. there was a reason, though not a good one, that the c/r was illegal in cardrooms in washington state for a long time.

b

[tablerunr]

Button says out loud, "which one of you has the straight flush?"

Now had you responded immediately with something like, "Oh censored" The outcome may have been more rewarding.