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eviljeff
08-24-2005, 01:09 PM
only have 6 hands on villain, he hasn't done anything special so far

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Preflop: eviljeff is UTG+1 with T/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">eviljeff raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">eviljeff bets</font>, MP3 calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">eviljeff bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>.

I think this is a pretty easy call, anyone fold or 3bet?

River: (6.75 BB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
eviljeff ...

I'm thinking b/c or c/r/c ... which is better? anyone suggest a different line?
gharp
08-24-2005, 01:17 PM
I'm not too worried about the straight, but I'd be worried that your villain might. So I'd just go ahead and bet here.

If he raises you've got a decision to make -- his turn play represented a J more than the straight (unless he had specifically T8). So a 3-bet might not be a bad idea if you can muster up the courage. You'll definitely get called by J9, AJ, etc.
Duerig
08-24-2005, 02:08 PM
I would probably fold the turn. I would put villain on at least 2 pair here most of the time. I think the river is a good place to bet-call. I'd hate to get this checked through with a set and I think 4 to a straight on the board scares a lot of players.
jrz1972
08-24-2005, 02:10 PM
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I'm not too worried about the straight, but I'd be worried that your villain might. So I'd just go ahead and bet here.

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imported_The Vibesman
08-24-2005, 02:13 PM
I'm usually bet/calling here.
aces_dad
08-24-2005, 02:25 PM
You really put villian on at least 2 pair every time a turn bet is raised HU?
Pylos
08-24-2005, 02:25 PM
MP3 is raising on the turn, to me it looks like he has either a pair of J's or has hit 2 pair (J9 is common).

I doubt, unless he is a tricksy little one he would bet out on an open ended straight. At this level most people will wait until they land them to start going crazy.

I would bet out on the river, most of the time I think he'll be calling.
aK13
08-24-2005, 04:24 PM
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You really put villian on at least 2 pair every time a turn bet is raised HU?

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No. But the pot is small. We need to be ahead about 25% of the time to warrant a calldown (8:2). We're not good that often in my experience.
aces_dad
08-24-2005, 04:26 PM
I do agree that even if villian has a J we're now in bad shape. I just don't see how we can specifically think he has 2 pair as opposed to any J.
Duerig
08-24-2005, 05:41 PM
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I do agree that even if villian has a J we're now in bad shape. I just don't see how we can specifically think he has 2 pair as opposed to any J.

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You're right, I think putting villian on 2 pair is a hasty move. Interestingly enough though, we have a lot more outs against most 2 pairs than we do against a J. I still don't think that I would call the turn.