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Phoenix1010

08-11-2005, 02:47 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP ($65.05)
Button ($1.45)
Hero ($48.28)
BB ($67.35)
UTG ($88.81)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $1.5, BB folds, UTG calls $1.50.

Turn: ($4.50) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3, UTG raises to $6, Hero calls $3.

River: ($16.50) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $9, UTG raises to $18, Hero calls $9.

Final Pot: $52.50

gol4pro

08-11-2005, 02:58 PM

I'd say it's 50/50 between him having 2 pair or worse, and having you beat. Looks fine.

djoyce003

08-11-2005, 03:21 PM

good slow down...in fact I might have check/called the river. He could have a set or straight, but a worse 2 pair is probably more likely. I don't want to play for my stack here though, so I like slowing down here.

08-11-2005, 03:42 PM

check call river. no reason to bet there unless you are planning on calling a big raise or push.

kevkev60614

08-11-2005, 03:44 PM

Do you know anything about UTG? I think a terrible player wouldn't have smooth called a set on the flop and raised the turn, but probably would have called the flop with Ax, A4, or A5. If he was terrible, I probably wouldn't have slowed down. If he was decent, this was a good play.

08-11-2005, 03:47 PM

I like to play small pots w/ 2pair. I would have probably folded to a big turn or river raise. How weak is that?

davekngs

08-11-2005, 04:07 PM

played perfectly if you ask me. I disagree with check calling the river, I think you done the right thing by betting and calling raise. 5 handed on a very safe board this is a big hand and i think you got good value out of it without overplaying it, nice IMO

Andrew Fletcher

08-11-2005, 04:28 PM

I would've raised the turn. That min-raise screams to me that he just called your flop bet w/ an ace. It could also be a pure bluff-- you bet w/ a pair of nines and now he's trying to use the ace as a scare card. I suspect he has A2-AT. If he is very passive, he might have AJ-AK. Most people raise with a pocket pair pre-flop 5 handed, so I think a set is very unlikely.

I think you are way ahead in this hand and should try to get as much money as possible out of villian. 60% he has a pair of aces, 20% he is on a pure bluff, 15% he's got a worse two pair. 5% he has a set.

Godfather80

08-11-2005, 04:47 PM

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP ($65.05)
Button ($1.45)
Hero ($48.28)
BB ($67.35)
UTG ($88.81)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $1.5, BB folds, UTG calls $1.50.

Turn: ($4.50) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3, UTG raises to $6, Hero calls $3.

River: ($16.50) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $9, UTG raises to $18, Hero calls $9.

Final Pot: $52.50

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Good slow down. I also say check-call the river. That turn raise is somewhat spooky considering his flop call. I think that you are probably ahead on the river more than you are behind. Did he show you the same hand?

Phoenix1010

08-11-2005, 05:37 PM

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Did he show you the same hand?

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Villain showed A4.

-Phoenix

Macquarie

08-11-2005, 07:26 PM

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I would've raised the turn...I think you are way ahead in this hand and should try to get as much money as possible out of villian.

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If you think villain has a pair or is on a bluff, raising the turn is absolutely the worst thing you can do; it would minimise your winnings when ahead and maximise your losses when behind.

I'd check call the river.

08-12-2005, 01:20 AM

I don't see utg raising the turn with a set once a scare card hits.

08-12-2005, 01:38 AM

I would have played this hand differently depending on the reads I had. If the raiser was a LAG I would have raised and maybe even went all in on the river. If he was a TAG, or I had no reads, I would have probably check called the river. Would my reraise on the river be too much against a 40/15/3 LAG? Because I'm starting to think I like two pair too much.