Noob Challenge: 12k in 60 days (day 0) [Archive]

08-08-2005, 08:36 PM

I loved the old Schneids/Gonores Challenge posts. Now I'm not nearly the player that they are, however, I think setting up a challenge would be beneficial. I play mostly 2/4 limit on Party skins, so I figured 12k would be a good number, since it's 1/5th the money of the 60k challenges. And those guys played 10/20 which is five times what I play in terms of money.

Also, this will force me to log in hours diligently and I hope to become a much better player two months from now (and maybe joining the high rollers at 3/6 /images/graemlins/grin.gif).

I think I can do this 4-tabling 8 hours/day. I'll try to break up the task into two or more sessions per day. I figure an afternoon session for about 3-4 hours, and an equal evening session. I also want to take time out of the day to improve my poker game, so that'll consist of browsing 2+2 & maybe finishing Inside the Poker Mind. I'm worried that I will burn out/get lazy/etc. I'm not sure if I need to schedule days off, or should I just take a day off when I feel like it. Or should I just suck it up and play thru my laziness.

I've been taking poker seriously for about a year on & off, so I'm definitely still relatively new to the game. I think I'm at the level that many SSers & MLers are at. I'd like to take my game up another notch, so I think I need to go about this like a professional and dedicate time & energy to improving.

Since it's August 8th, I think I'll start tomorrow (already procrastinating), and this personal challenge will go on from 8/9/05 - 10/9/05.

If anyone would like to join me in my challenge, so we can support/challenge each other, than plz reply or PM if you'd like.

TimM

08-08-2005, 08:53 PM

I'm not so sure I like this idea. Something like 1/4 of the way through, if you are on schedule, you will be way over bankrolled and should move up.

timprov

08-08-2005, 09:02 PM

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I'm not so sure I like this idea. Something like 1/4 of the way through, if you are on schedule, you will be way over bankrolled and should move up.

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I imagine he can move up during the challenge.

I'm contemplating doing this with you; after the last couple of months I need some motivation to get hands in. I play mostly 5/10, but I two-table at most, so it seems close to a reasonable goal.

baronzeus

08-08-2005, 09:04 PM

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I'm not so sure I like this idea. Something like 1/4 of the way through, if you are on schedule, you will be way over bankrolled and should move up.

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I imagine he can move up during the challenge.

I'm contemplating doing this with you; after the last couple of months I need some motivation to get hands in. I play mostly 5/10, but I two-table at most, so it seems close to a reasonable goal.

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I plan on doing this too, 4tabling 3/6 6max and moving up to 5/10 once I regain my confidence/bankroll.

Should be fun.

[censored]

08-08-2005, 09:07 PM

i will do this with you. well the 12k/60 days part.

08-08-2005, 09:23 PM

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I'm not so sure I like this idea. Something like 1/4 of the way through, if you are on schedule, you will be way over bankrolled and should move up.

[/ QUOTE ] I like the idea of moving /images/graemlins/smile.gif. Now I don't know how this will turn out, but one of the reasons for doing this is so I could move up to the 3/6 6-max games with a good bankroll (anyone know how much roll is needed for that game?). I hopefully will be taking shots at that game, but my SH game is non-existant, and I hear the 3/6 full game isn't really worth it. Mainly, by the end of all this, I will be able to look back and say, I'm a much better player than I was when I started, and I got some money to comfortably take shots at the higher games.

MEbenhoe

08-08-2005, 09:28 PM

You do realize that to accomplish this task means 2k hands a day at 2.5 BB/100 for 60 days. There's a reason schneids and gonores failed in their attempts. Not to be a downer, but I predict a lot of people going cool I'll do this too, and few if any actually succeeding. 3000 BBs in 60 days plain and simple is a shitload.

Subfallen

08-08-2005, 09:47 PM

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There's a reason schneids and gonores failed in their attempts.

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And here's a hint: it wasn't because they suck at poker. This is one heck of a tough quest.

timprov

08-08-2005, 10:03 PM

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There's a reason schneids and gonores failed in their attempts.

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I'm pretty sure Schneids failed because he's a T-Wolves fan, and thus failure came naturally.

I think I can at least come close at 5/10, and even if it just motivates me to play a load of hands in the first 30 days before giving up, that's fine.

[censored]

08-08-2005, 10:31 PM

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You do realize that to accomplish this task means 2k hands a day at 2.5 BB/100 for 60 days. There's a reason schneids and gonores failed in their attempts. Not to be a downer, but I predict a lot of people going cool I'll do this too, and few if any actually succeeding. 3000 BBs in 60 days plain and simple is a shitload.

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Ya to clarify I will be playing at my own limits

jtr

08-08-2005, 10:37 PM

I'd like to participate in the challenge too. Except I will be playing a different number of hands at a different limit with a different monetary target, over a different length of time. Plus I don't want to tell anyone about what happens. OK?

Doc7

08-08-2005, 10:39 PM

Do it 6 times a year and you've got yourself some mad bank.

08-09-2005, 01:31 AM

I made $15,217 in my first 52 days playing poker online (the only previous poker experience I had was playing $10 tournies against kids in HS) My initial bankroll was $800. You can find my old posts under the name "KyleM" in case ya want to see any of them... I got banned for "namecalling"

Anyway, after I was up 15k, I hit a ridiculous run of bad luck in MTTs and dropped down just under 11k. Anyway, I'm playin 10/20 now and made 4k in the last 4 days, so I'm back up to about 15k profit (over 70 days).

So, it's definitely possible /images/graemlins/cool.gif. Good luck. Catch me playin 10/20 @ party on P0KEMON_SEX, WE_WANT_EZ, or Achilles_0.

PS Fck the mod that banned me.

Cosimo

08-09-2005, 01:49 AM

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this personal challenge will go on from 8/9/05 - 10/9/05.

If anyone would like to join me in my challenge, so we can support/challenge each other, than plz reply or PM if you'd like.

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$12k at 2-4 is 3000 BB, so this is the 3000BB in 60 days challenge (50BB/day). At 2.5BB/100, that's 2k hands per day, or about 60k for the month. I get in about 1700 hands per day -- when I play. I could get 5k in on a Saturday or Sunday if I pushed, but I haven't pushed yet. But I'll join you. I really really want to put more hands in.

DO IT.

As for burn-out: I don't diet; I change my eating habits. Not exactly Atkins (informed more by Nutrient Timing actually) but close enough. Anyway, Saturday is my cheat day. I eat pasta, drink cokes, have ice cream if I feel like it. It is *much* easier to be diligent the rest of the week when I've got that one day scheduled to cheat. Anything I want to cheat on (ie I really really want choco chip cookie dough icecream), I save it for Saturday. In addition to avoiding ketosis, I don't crave junk, and I don't feel like I'm eating cardboard all week.

blah blah. Point being: schedule a day/night off. I have a day job, too, so Friday nights are usually my day off. No poker; just me, my drinking buddies, a buncha chicks to game, and drinks.

Summary: I recommend scheduled off-time.

goofball

08-09-2005, 07:24 AM

I'm going to join you as well. I usually play 5/10 6max but I'm only going to shoot for 20k in 60 days. I also play a lot 15/30 live, and I'll be including that. My game is is getting back on track and I wanna start logging a lot of hands again. (heh, too bad I can't include today's results :-p)

kitaristi0

08-09-2005, 11:44 AM

Whatever you do, please everyone make blogs. Blogs are fun.

timprov

08-09-2005, 05:45 PM

A nice start to the challenge, as I played a bunch of short holdem sessions and did well. I've been trying going back to 3-tabling with two Absolute tables and one on Stars, and that's feeling a bit hectic, but doable. I sat down this morning with the intention of playing for a while, then broke both Absolute tables within 20 minutes. Oops.

Anyway, I played 268 hands of holdem for a profit of $428.51. It's always nice to start off running at 16 BB/100. I had AA five times, and it held up all 5.

I also played 1:03 of 2/4 triple draw, which is my second regular game, and made $88.50 mostly headsup. I bombed out before the addon for the first time in the 24h tournament, but I think I'm going to leave 24h results out to avoid currency exchange headaches.

I suspect I'm done with holdem for the day, except maybe for a 2+2 HU match. Will probably play some more TD if I can get a game tonight.

timprov

08-09-2005, 10:44 PM

3:17 of further triple draw, up another $44.75. Now I really am done for the day.

Total for Day 1 $561.76. Hours didn't suck either.

bottomset

08-10-2005, 02:55 AM

I'm aiming for 6k/60 days at 3/6

I don't play nearly as much as most of you, and usually 2table, and work fulltime

but a 1000BB at 2.5/100(not sure if im that good) still works out to 667hands a day, or 40k over the 2months .. which is a lot more than I'm used to playing but motivation is good, and I might be able to move upto 5/10 during this at some point

[censored]

08-10-2005, 03:54 AM

my day one = $615

baronzeus

08-10-2005, 04:22 AM

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my day one = $615

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In two days I'm at $955.

[censored]

08-11-2005, 12:56 AM

as of day 2 total = 794.

where are the rest of you pussies?

timprov

08-11-2005, 01:25 AM

$39.50 in about 20 minutes of triple draw, $110.50 in about an hour of holdem. Not going so well on the getting more hands front. That makes for $712.25 total, after a one cent total loss in two headsup matches.

baronzeus

08-11-2005, 01:31 AM

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as of day 2 total = 794.

where are the rest of you pussies?

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Sitting at $1210. Does rakeback count? About $100 ish in rakeback, probably more, we'll see.

bottomset

08-11-2005, 02:27 AM

Day1: +417.88 3days ahead of schedule

[censored]

08-11-2005, 02:27 AM

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as of day 2 total = 794.

where are the rest of you pussies?

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Sitting at $1210. Does rakeback count? About $100 ish in rakeback, probably more, we'll see.

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ok it's on bitch /images/graemlins/cool.gif

Cosimo

08-11-2005, 02:57 AM

Do we need a different thread for the updates?

Day 1: 0 hands. Day job called.

Day 2: +43 BBs. Got in 5 hours. I'm not including cleared bonus or rakeback in this number

2957 BB to go!

baronzeus

08-11-2005, 03:00 AM

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as of day 2 total = 794.

where are the rest of you pussies?

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Sitting at $1210. Does rakeback count? About $100 ish in rakeback, probably more, we'll see.

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ok it's on bitch /images/graemlins/cool.gif

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I'm taking the weekend off so you can catch up /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Reef

08-11-2005, 04:12 AM

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I think I can do this 4-tabling 8 hours/day.

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have you ever tried this for longer than a week before?

any gl, you're gonna need it

goofball

08-11-2005, 04:32 AM

-$646 today so I'm now at only $337.59 for the first two days.

timprov

08-11-2005, 05:24 AM

Insomniac, I stuck The Goonies in and headed to Party briefly for some 2/4 BBJ bonus clearing. Landed a one-hundred-percenter, and added another $133.25 to the day's total. So after day 2, $845.50 for me.

timprov

08-12-2005, 01:08 AM

Day 3 for me was dominated by the Games Grid triple draw tournament. It's interesting playing in a real tournament with long blind levels and deep stacks, which seems to happen rarely online. I took second for a $100 profit after a huge headsup collapse.

Also got in a little Party whoring, to the tune of $62.23, and some TD ring at GG, for $34.50. $196.73 total for Day 3, and $1042.23 so far.

[censored]

08-12-2005, 02:32 AM

as of day 3 = 1,220.

I am setting my sights on 5 hours a day or 300 hours for the 60 day challenge. So far I am right on schedule at 15 hours.

suck it oot haters

goofball

08-12-2005, 08:59 AM

god i'm so freaking under on hands played/hours logged.

+546.58 on party, 1.57 horus and 413 hands. -200 at Wynn, 6 hours = ~240 hands.

only at 13.59 hours and 2k hands after the first 3 days. Pitiful.

stone_7

08-12-2005, 01:12 PM

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I'd like to participate in the challenge too. Except I will be playing a different number of hands at a different limit with a different monetary target, over a different length of time. Plus I don't want to tell anyone about what happens. OK?

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I wish you good luck in this.

timprov

08-12-2005, 05:21 PM

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Sitting at $1210. Does rakeback count? About $100 ish in rakeback, probably more, we'll see.

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I'd like to hear some opinions on whether rakeback and bonus should count.

MEbenhoe

08-12-2005, 05:37 PM

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Sitting at $1210. Does rakeback count? About $100 ish in rakeback, probably more, we'll see.

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I'd like to hear some opinions on whether rakeback and bonus should count.

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yes, good enough?

[censored]

08-12-2005, 09:43 PM

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Sitting at $1210. Does rakeback count? About $100 ish in rakeback, probably more, we'll see.

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I'd like to hear some opinions on whether rakeback and bonus should count.

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yes, good enough?

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I haven't been including it but I think clearly it should. There is no difference in earning $1 from playing, rake back or bonuses. It is still $1.

mmbt0ne

08-12-2005, 11:26 PM

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Sitting at $1210. Does rakeback count? About $100 ish in rakeback, probably more, we'll see.

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I'd like to hear some opinions on whether rakeback and bonus should count.

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I don't believe Schneids or gonores included rakeback in their challenges.

timprov

08-13-2005, 12:17 AM

Not such a great day today. Up $17.50 finishing off the Party reload, then down $91.75 at TD. Up $26.25 today counting the bonus. Bringing the 4-day total to $1068.48.

timprov

08-13-2005, 01:38 AM

Added a quick $42 at Absolute. Lasted all of one round before I decided that no matter how good the tables were, I hurt too damn much. $1110.48.

joker122

08-13-2005, 02:40 AM

this may have been already been brought up, but i think it would be better if you did a seperate post for each day so we don't have another gigantic thread like HULA where you had to scroll down for 2 days before you got to the hand posts.

good luck also.

bottomset

08-13-2005, 03:37 AM

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this may have been already been brought up, but i think it would be better if you did a seperate post for each day so we don't have another gigantic thread like HULA where you had to scroll down for 2 days before you got to the hand posts.

good luck also.

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I think maybe 1post perweek for this

my status after 3days 1278hands +276.82

[censored]

08-13-2005, 03:42 AM

what a shitty day

as of day 4 total = 1347

I'm right on pace at 20 hours total

goofball

08-13-2005, 08:22 AM

I'm just not playing enough. Basically I'm lazy.

today was +580.44 in 582 hands (yes that's 10bb/100 again)

total of $1264.41, and 2291 hands online(in other words running way way goot). +$0 at wynn in 8 hours of play.

timprov

08-14-2005, 03:06 AM

Well, that run was fun while it lasted. Went back to my normal game for a few hours today, and dropped $720.50. Now the five-day total is $389.98.

Non_Comformist

08-14-2005, 04:43 AM

I've switched from the [censored] account

as of day 5 total = $1634

Im at 25 hours total right on pace for my 300 target.

goofball

08-14-2005, 12:37 PM

Ran hot today. +1700 at Wynn in 9 hours, +94 on party poker in 474 hands.

Total of $3058.61 in 3445 hands and 26.8 hours.

08-14-2005, 06:05 PM

Ok I'm in too guys. Here are my first 3 days:

Day 1: +$4650
Day 2: +$2500
Day 3: +4900 (was up about 7k at one point then I caught a bad cold streak)

Totaly 3-day profit: $12,050

I think I won.

Of course I was 8-tabling 15/30 and some 10/20, so I'm not sure I'm playing the same limits as the rest of you guys, but I'm still part of the "noob challenge" if I've only been playing poker for less than 3 months, right?

-KyleM

mmmmmbrother

08-14-2005, 08:38 PM

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Ok I'm in too guys. Here are my first 3 days:

Day 1: +$4650
Day 2: +$2500
Day 3: +4900 (was up about 7k at one point then I caught a bad cold streak)

Totaly 3-day profit: $12,050

I think I won.

Of course I was 8-tabling 15/30 and some 10/20, so I'm not sure I'm playing the same limits as the rest of you guys, but I'm still part of the "noob challenge" if I've only been playing poker for less than 3 months, right?

-KyleM

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not a brag post

celiboy

08-14-2005, 09:29 PM