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wegs the wegs
08-03-2005, 11:04 AM
I've been struggling lately playing sets or overpairs without a match on a flop that has only one suit. Overbet the flop to eliminate the several possible flush draws? That just lets me bet into the made flush every now and then. If I play it hard on the flop and get called... do I bet hard on the turn? Bet it light and hope to boat? If you have any suggestions on how you play a one suit board with a solid hand, please let me know because I keep losing money in situations like these.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero ($66)
UTG ($44.15)
UTG+1 ($25.60)
MP1 ($24.50)
MP2 ($68.15)
CO ($40)
Button ($47)
SB ($105.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif. UTG posts a blind of $1. CO posts a blind of $1.
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $2</font>, MP1 calls $2, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls $1.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $10, MP1 calls $10, SB calls $10.

Flop: ($49) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, SB calls $20.

Turn: ($89) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $34 (All-In)</font>, SB calls $34.

River: ($157) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $157

Raven
08-03-2005, 11:26 AM
Just go all-in on the flop, even if someone already have the flush you are correct to draw for the full. You have to bet 54 $ in a pot of 49 $.

BirdieLongSocks
08-03-2005, 11:28 AM
Push flop.

You cant make a smaller bet, and you dont whant A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif catching that last diamond. You will get paid by smaller sets, and maybee some AA/KK with a /images/graemlins/diamond.gif.

swolfe
08-03-2005, 12:04 PM
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Push flop.

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yes. it's a PSB.

wegs the wegs
08-03-2005, 12:12 PM
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Push flop.

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Does this hold true if I have a deeper stack? Or if opponents have bigger stacks to match?

BirdieLongSocks
08-03-2005, 12:14 PM
PSB?

BirdieLongSocks
08-03-2005, 12:15 PM
In this case with this much already in you haft to have several very deep stacks to not make this a push.

djoyce003
08-03-2005, 12:17 PM
it really depends on the hand, but in this example with 4 people seeing the flop, the likelihood of a flush is higher. Given your hand though, you have odds at the full pretty much anyways because he doesn't always have the flush. If it's headsup this is much different because the likelihood of the flush is much less. If you lose, that's poker.

swolfe
08-03-2005, 12:20 PM
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PSB?

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pot-sized bet

BirdieLongSocks
08-03-2005, 12:23 PM
thank you

wegs the wegs
08-03-2005, 12:38 PM
Alright so the general idea is to push the flop. What if I held AA or KK in this situation with the same preflop betting patterns? With a short stack like I have I would have to push. What about a bigger stack? I'm figuring AA or KK with a diamond is more of an insta-push. Sorry if this thought is a little choppy.