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SomethingClever
08-01-2005, 10:27 PM
I am running tighter in the BB these days than I was before, and it seems to be ok (fold BB low 60s versus low 50s).

I just had a REALLY tight session though, where I folded my BB 90% to a raise. Cold deck, probably, but tell me what to do with these.

A2o to a SB raise.

KQs to a CO raise. (easy 3-bet?)

K4o to a CO raise 4-handed.

J8o to a button raise.

Um... those were the best hands I had in the BB.

RunDownHouse
08-01-2005, 10:30 PM
A2o to a SB raise.
3bet

KQs to a CO raise. (easy 3-bet?)
3bet

K4o to a CO raise 4-handed.
Fold.

J8o to a button raise.
I could go call or fold, depending on reads

Surfbullet
08-01-2005, 10:31 PM
My play, barring reads:

A2o to a SB raise.
3bet.

KQs to a CO raise. (easy 3-bet?)
3bet.

K4o to a CO raise 4-handed.
fold. Amended to call if he's a light raiser.

J8o to a button raise.
call.

Surf

SomethingClever
08-01-2005, 10:55 PM
You guys always 3-bet A2o to a steal?

I'd say I 3-bet A5o+ every time, but I'm a little gunshy of the littler ones.

IGMorton
08-01-2005, 11:14 PM
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You guys always 3-bet A2o to a steal?

I'd say I 3-bet A5o+ every time, but I'm a little gunshy of the littler ones.

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I agree that seems excessive. HEPAP, Jason Pohl and many others recommend caution with ANY hand containing a duece or a trey for good reason.

I just call and let the flop dictate my play. If flop looks harmless and SB checks to me... i'll bet and probably show down ace high. If i flop an ace i have the option of slowplaying it (which doesn't work as well after a raise preflop). If i flop bottom pair with my shitty kicker (A2-A4), i bet/call with caution.

RunDownHouse
08-01-2005, 11:38 PM
I'll take taking down the pot on the flop or turn because I was the aggressor over slowplaying a naked A anyday. A2 isn't an auto 3bet, but I'll do it against an unknown. The high card plus position plus regaining the initiative equals 3bet.

I think the best argument for just calling is that you can either pop an A on the flop or resteal a benign flop. The problem with this is that I think a SB opener has a wide enough range that its dangerous to try to resteal any flop.

jdl22
08-02-2005, 12:04 AM
I 3 bet KQs and fold the rest.

As someone else said I don't like playing with a deuce in my hand especially against an aggressor.

adamstewart
08-02-2005, 12:23 AM
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I 3 bet KQs and fold the rest.

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Entity
08-02-2005, 12:58 AM
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I 3 bet KQs and fold the rest.

As someone else said I don't like playing with a deuce in my hand especially against an aggressor.

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Um, with A2o you not only have an Ace but you have position. Seriously.

Anyway, 3-bet, 3-bet, fold, call.

Rob

twankerr
08-02-2005, 02:24 AM
i havent looked, but i have:

3bet
3bet
fold
call

josh1122
08-02-2005, 02:30 AM
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A2o to a SB raise.
3bet

KQs to a CO raise. (easy 3-bet?)
3bet

K4o to a CO raise 4-handed.
Fold.

J8o to a button raise.
I could go call or fold, depending on reads

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Riskwise
08-02-2005, 02:34 AM
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A2o to a SB raise.
3bet

KQs to a CO raise. (easy 3-bet?)
3bet

K4o to a CO raise 4-handed.
Fold.

J8o to a button raise.
I could go call or fold, depending on reads

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right on.

Jinx
08-02-2005, 03:29 AM
I know this is pretty player dependant, but in the 8Jo call hand, do you try to bluff it when the flop comes, say, 259 rainbow?

Jeff W
08-02-2005, 03:37 AM
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do you try to bluff it when the flop comes, say, 259 rainbow?

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No, that is not a good bluffing flop.

Jeff W
08-02-2005, 03:40 AM
A2o: I actually call this a fair amount against average opponents. The advantage to reraising is that you can often win the pot on coordinated flops like KQ8 that you have to drop when you call pre flop. The disadvantage to reraising is you often kill your action when you hit an Ace.

KQs: 3-bet.

K4o: Player dependent.

J8o: Call.

Jinx
08-02-2005, 03:55 AM
what would be a good bluffing flop? any broadway cards, you gotta think he has a piece. Something you 5c6c7h you mean?

Jeff W
08-02-2005, 04:06 AM
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what would be a good bluffing flop? any broadway cards, you gotta think he has a piece. Something you 5c6c7h you mean?

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The best bluffing flop is Kxx. Axx can be a good bluffing flop also. There are other good bluffing flops that depend on your opponent's tendencies/hand range.

765 is a terrible bluffing flop. Any flop with multiple coordinated cards is a bad bluffing flop. Example: QT8, AK5, 998, 245.

952 is not a good bluffing flop because you get loose calldowns from Ax and you may have to bet 3 streets to knockout two overcards.