Moving to San Diego (like 80% sure) [Archive]

sublime

07-27-2005, 04:57 PM

Yet I have never been there. Not a big deal, I plan on visiting in October/November and moving Jan 1st if I like it(from all accounts I will). I have some questions/request for suggestions.

Moving cross country. Fortunately the apartment I am living in was furnished with a bed, kitchen area washer dryer etc....so the only things I would have to move are:

Computer equipment

Desk/Side table (together they cost like $70?)
Desk Chair ($100+)

A futon Sofa

TV (again cheap)

CD boom box (cheap, old. sucks)

My IPOD dock player

Clothes (limited amount due to the fact that I plan on losing a significant amount of weight, and restocking my wardrobe to its full pimp potential)

Shitload of books

2 dead hookers

Really that's about it. I drive a Camry, and have decent trunk space, so I suppose I could fit most of my stuff in the car. I also have heard shipping stuff via Amtrak is cheap. Should I just ditch the cheap electronics (TV/Radio) and leave it for the next tenant? Actually the stereo is small enough to fit in the car....SO leave the TV and fit the computer in the trunk.....

I plan on driving, and setting a course that hits various casino. Anyone want to go for the trip?

PS- Joetall is thinking of coming with me, but who knows with the way that boy falls in love.

IndieMatty

07-27-2005, 04:59 PM

When I moved crosstown I got all new stuff. Ditch the cheap [censored], anything worth less then 100 bucks and is not "new" or what you really want, just give to goodwill and take the tax write off.

sublime

07-27-2005, 05:00 PM

When I moved crosstown

LOL!

sublime

07-27-2005, 05:01 PM

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When I moved crosstown I got all new stuff. Ditch the cheap [censored], anything worth less then 100 bucks and is not "new" or what you really want, just give to goodwill and take the tax write off.

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i was thinking the same thing. it would cost as much to ship the [censored].

IndieMatty

07-27-2005, 05:02 PM

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When I moved crosstown

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True man. The fact your even considering bringing:

Desk/Side table (together they cost like $70?)

Across country with you is absolutely absurd. I thought you were a baller.

razor

07-27-2005, 05:09 PM

What do you mean by a sh!tload of books? Two of my uncles are academics, so my vision of a sh!tload is more than can be carried in a the trunk of a car in a single trip.

Fit what you can in the trunk and screw the rest... if your books don't fit, find a cheap alternative means of shipping (like amtrak if they do that or try a bus company).

Patrick del Poker Grande

07-27-2005, 05:10 PM

[censored] that. Buy yourself a damned one-way flight and you're not bringing anything you can't fit in your carry-on.

sublime

07-27-2005, 05:12 PM

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When I moved crosstown

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True man. The fact your even considering bringing:

Desk/Side table (together they cost like $70?)

Across country with you is absolutely absurd. I thought you were a baller.

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where these rumors of me being a baller come from, i will never know. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

i wont bring em, i guess from my poor upbringing i feel guilty wasting stuff. as usual OOT clears my conscience.

what ares do i need to loom at for san diegoites. also, playing poker for a living could be an issue. so if somebody has property they want to rent out, let me know. i can pay 3-4 months in advance if its an issue.

sublime

07-27-2005, 05:13 PM

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[censored] that. Buy yourself a damned one-way flight and you're not bringing anything you can't fit in your carry-on.

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My car?

Patrick del Poker Grande

07-27-2005, 05:15 PM

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[censored] that. Buy yourself a damned one-way flight and you're not bringing anything you can't fit in your carry-on.

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My car?

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[censored] it. You're not allowed to drive a Camry in San Diego, anyway. You're going to need at least a BMW 325 or a Lexus for beginners.

IndieMatty

07-27-2005, 05:15 PM

where these rumors of me being a baller come from, i will never know. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

i wont bring em, i guess from my poor upbringing i feel guilty wasting stuff. as usual OOT clears my conscience.

what ares do i need to loom at for san diegoites. also, playing poker for a living could be an issue. so if somebody has property they want to rent out, let me know. i can pay 3-4 months in advance if its an issue.

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I always assumed you were because you were the only one to get in PokerJo's pants.

Plenty of San Diegoans in OOT, there's always rooms available two, My friends move like every year.

swede123

07-27-2005, 05:15 PM

For what it's worth I used to know this super slutty girl in Oceanside, and if you are so inclined she'd probably be willing to give it up as a "welcome to Cali" gesture.

Swede

Patrick del Poker Grande

07-27-2005, 05:16 PM

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For what it's worth I used to know this super slutty girl in Oceanside, and if you are so inclined she'd probably be willing to give it up as a "welcome to Cali" gesture.

Swede

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Nice. He could probably meet her right in the parking lot at Ocean's 11 for a quickie.

sublime

07-27-2005, 05:17 PM

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My car?

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[censored] it. You're not allowed to drive a Camry in San Diego, anyway. You're going to need at least a BMW 325 or a Lexus for beginners.

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lol, i have thought about unloading it. i suppose the success of the upcoming football season will be the judge of that (i bet sports on a semi pro level). the computer equipment i 'could' ship. i think driving is the wway though. with FREQUENT stops.

sublime

07-27-2005, 05:20 PM

sublime

07-27-2005, 05:22 PM

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I always assumed you were because you were the only one to get in PokerJo's pants.

Plenty of San Diegoans in OOT, there's always rooms available two, My friends move like every year.

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cool. i suppose i will be honest if i apply for an apartment. i imagine if i have to paying a few months in advance will appease the landlord.

nolanfan34

07-27-2005, 05:25 PM

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I plan on driving, and setting a course that hits various casino. Anyone want to go for the trip?

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Clearly the correct answer to this, is to go through NY and hit Turning Stone, then head West through Wisc, up to Minn to stop at Canterbury. After that, drive as fast as possible through the Dakotas. Get into Montana, and play some of the small cardrooms that have antiquated rules like no check-raising. Stop at one of the many combo gas station/bar/casino's you'll see along I-90.

Then head to Washington, to gambool at the Muckleshoot. From there, of course then you head down the coast - hit the Bay Area, Commerce, and then finally San Diego. Now that's a trip!

BWebb

07-27-2005, 05:28 PM

Going to be looking for a roommate in early '06?

junkmail3

07-27-2005, 05:34 PM

Don't forget to hit tunica and other mississippi casinos in between turning stone and canterbury.

sublime

07-27-2005, 05:36 PM

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Going to be looking for a roommate in early '06?

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possible. where you live now? when would u need a roomate?

I am also listening to another poster talk up Rosarito mexico....

Patrick del Poker Grande

07-27-2005, 05:37 PM

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sublime

07-27-2005, 05:38 PM

lol

BWebb

07-27-2005, 05:39 PM

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possible. where you live now? when would u need a roomate?

I am also listening to another poster talk up Rosarito mexico....

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I live in Central California right now, but have been thinking of moving to SD for a while. I have a lease until the end of the year. If I can find a good job, I'm 90% sure I'll be making the move.

sublime

07-27-2005, 05:45 PM

what industry do you work in?

BWebb

07-27-2005, 05:47 PM

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what industry do you work in?

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Right now, banking (commercial lending). The new job doesn't necessarily have to be in that field, but it is where I will start my search. I'll be 26 in October.

junkmail3

07-27-2005, 05:48 PM

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Well, I certainly wouldn't stop there after Minnesota. It'd be way out of the way.

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07-27-2005, 05:49 PM

is your car nice? what kind of music do you listen to? do you smoke? do you stink?

Patrick del Poker Grande

07-27-2005, 05:49 PM

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Well, I certainly wouldn't stop there after Minnesota. It'd be way out of the way.

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POTD

felson

07-27-2005, 05:53 PM

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what ares do i need to loom at for san diegoites.

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If you want to play much live poker, you'll want to live in Clairemont or preferably further north (Carlsbad), since the only action higher than 8/16 is Ocean's 11. There are lots of apartments in University City (UTC) area, near UCSD. Rents drop if you go 5 miles east, but the weather is nicer when you're close to the beach.

sublime

07-27-2005, 05:55 PM

200 Camry, leather seats very well maintained. I listen to anything and everything. Smoking is for suckas. I smell like an all american STUD!

Patrick del Poker Grande

07-27-2005, 05:56 PM

Many people are also quite surprised what they can rent a (small) place near the beach for when they find the right person who's just sitting on a house.

sublime

07-27-2005, 05:57 PM

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Small is fine. I do want to get a dog though (a small one)

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07-27-2005, 05:59 PM

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200 Camry, leather seats very well maintained. I listen to anything and everything. Smoking is for suckas. I smell like an all american STUD!

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The road trip interests me.

sublime

07-27-2005, 06:00 PM

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200 Camry, leather seats very well maintained. I listen to anything and everything. Smoking is for suckas. I smell like an all american STUD!

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the road trip interests me.

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Cool, Ill keep ya updated. Feel free to include anything you would potentially like to do. All I have in mind is strip clubs and Casinos. Maybe a hooker if we can fit her in the trunk.

swede123

07-27-2005, 06:04 PM

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For what it's worth I used to know this super slutty girl in Oceanside, and if you are so inclined she'd probably be willing to give it up as a "welcome to Cali" gesture.

Swede

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description?

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About 6'1" Athletic build, decent size jugs, blonde, totally freakin' psycho (but in a nympho way).

That about sums her up. Oh, she really likes military dudes, that's why she moved to Oceanside. If you wear your hair short it's a bit plus. If you own a uniform you're money.

Swede

BWebb

07-27-2005, 06:09 PM

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200 Camry, leather seats very well maintained. I listen to anything and everything. Smoking is for suckas. I smell like an all american STUD!

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the road trip interests me.

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Cool, Ill keep ya updated. Feel free to include anything you would potentially like to do. All I have in mind is strip clubs and Casinos. Maybe a hooker if we can fit her in the trunk.

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Won't that be tough since you already have two? Shed some dead weight once you get to the Mississippi.

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07-27-2005, 06:10 PM

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Cool, Ill keep ya updated. Feel free to include anything you would potentially like to do.

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when I read that I thought of this

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All I have in mind is strip clubs and Casinos. Maybe a hooker if we can fit her in the trunk.

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Bulldog

07-27-2005, 06:12 PM

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About 6'1" Athletic build, decent size jugs, blonde, totally freakin' psycho (but in a nympho way).

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Sounds like Whiplash. Where is Rick Diesel, anyway?

morgan180

07-27-2005, 06:12 PM

You'll love it in SD - there are so many kids from Boston/Philly/NY/Jersey/Maryland/etc. that you'll find a little microcosm of east coasters that all hang out. It is definitely the right move. Most of my friends that moved from the aforementioned areas think that moving to SD was the best thing they have ever done.

morgan180

07-27-2005, 06:16 PM

look in mission beach for on/near the water houses for cheap - otherwise look in pacific beach to be more with the 20-27 year old crowd and the solid bar scene. if you like urban look downtown but it is more expensive than the beach areas. ocean beach is ghetto but has more of a surfer/dead beat/pot head vibe if you're in to that. if you are a normal twenty year old that likes to party, definitely choose MB or PB.

Patrick del Poker Grande

07-27-2005, 06:20 PM

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look in mission beach for on/near the water houses for cheap - otherwise look in pacific beach to be more with the 20-27 year old crowd and the solid bar scene. if you like urban look downtown but it is more expensive than the beach areas. ocean beach is ghetto but has more of a surfer/dead beat/pot head vibe if you're in to that. if you are a normal twenty year old that likes to party, definitely choose MB or PB.

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I was going to say this same thing, except that he wants play poker and therefore should be closer to Oceanside. He should find himself a sugarmamma in Del Mar.

morgan180

07-27-2005, 06:22 PM

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look in mission beach for on/near the water houses for cheap - otherwise look in pacific beach to be more with the 20-27 year old crowd and the solid bar scene. if you like urban look downtown but it is more expensive than the beach areas. ocean beach is ghetto but has more of a surfer/dead beat/pot head vibe if you're in to that. if you are a normal twenty year old that likes to party, definitely choose MB or PB.

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I was going to say this same thing, except that he wants play poker and therefore should be closer to Oceanside. He should find himself a sugarmamma in Del Mar.

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acutally being in mission beach or pacific beach puts you right on the 8 which is a straight shot out to the indian casinos. ocean's eleven is not that far a trip either - probably 25/30 minutes max - we used to make the run to both sycuan, viejas and o11 regularly when we lived there.

for something closer to oceanside try del mar - that place is cougar central and has good night life - although is a little more pricey.

sublime

07-27-2005, 06:22 PM

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look in mission beach for on/near the water houses for cheap - otherwise look in pacific beach to be more with the 20-27 year old crowd and the solid bar scene. if you like urban look downtown but it is more expensive than the beach areas. ocean beach is ghetto but has more of a surfer/dead beat/pot head vibe if you're in to that. if you are a normal twenty year old that likes to party, definitely choose MB or PB.

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I dont drink /images/graemlins/frown.gif

How does that factor in?

morgan180

07-27-2005, 06:23 PM

sublime

07-27-2005, 06:25 PM

Patrick del Poker Grande

07-27-2005, 06:26 PM

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look in mission beach for on/near the water houses for cheap - otherwise look in pacific beach to be more with the 20-27 year old crowd and the solid bar scene. if you like urban look downtown but it is more expensive than the beach areas. ocean beach is ghetto but has more of a surfer/dead beat/pot head vibe if you're in to that. if you are a normal twenty year old that likes to party, definitely choose MB or PB.

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I was going to say this same thing, except that he wants play poker and therefore should be closer to Oceanside. He should find himself a sugarmamma in Del Mar.

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acutally being in mission beach or pacific beach puts you right on the 8 which is a straight shot out to the indian casinos. ocean's eleven is not that far a trip either - probably 25/30 minutes max - we used to make the run to both sycuan, viejas and o11 regularly when we lived there.

for something closer to oceanside try del mar - that place is cougar central and has good night life - although is a little more pricey.

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I'd much rather Ocean's 11 than the crappy rooms at the indian casinos. Also, even under ideal conditions, there's no way you're making it to OE from PB in 25 minutes. I lived a few blocks off of I-5 at Del Mar Heights Road and it took me 25 minutes to get up there with just a little traffic.

But... the hot partying chicks are down in PB and MB... Del Mar has cougars. Although, I do like Jimmy O's and there's quite a nice selection of women there on a Friday night. You're going to need some money, though, for them.

sublime

07-27-2005, 06:27 PM

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look in mission beach for on/near the water houses for cheap - otherwise look in pacific beach to be more with the 20-27 year old crowd and the solid bar scene. if you like urban look downtown but it is more expensive than the beach areas. ocean beach is ghetto but has more of a surfer/dead beat/pot head vibe if you're in to that. if you are a normal twenty year old that likes to party, definitely choose MB or PB.

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I was going to say this same thing, except that he wants play poker and therefore should be closer to Oceanside. He should find himself a sugarmamma in Del Mar.

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acutally being in mission beach or pacific beach puts you right on the 8 which is a straight shot out to the indian casinos. ocean's eleven is not that far a trip either - probably 25/30 minutes max - we used to make the run to both sycuan, viejas and o11 regularly when we lived there.

for something closer to oceanside try del mar - that place is cougar central and has good night life - although is a little more pricey.

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I'd much rather Ocean's 11 than the crappy rooms at the indian casinos. Also, even under ideal conditions, there's no way you're making it to OE from PB in 25 minutes. I lived a few blocks off of I-5 at Del Mar Heights Road and it took me 25 minutes to get up there with just a little traffic.

But... the hot partying chicks are down in PB and MB... Del Mar has cougars. Although, I do like Jimmy O's and there's quite a nice selection of women there on a Friday night. You're going to need some money, though.

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i dont play much live poker, but being closer to oceans11 would be better.

morgan180

07-27-2005, 10:39 PM

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look in mission beach for on/near the water houses for cheap - otherwise look in pacific beach to be more with the 20-27 year old crowd and the solid bar scene. if you like urban look downtown but it is more expensive than the beach areas. ocean beach is ghetto but has more of a surfer/dead beat/pot head vibe if you're in to that. if you are a normal twenty year old that likes to party, definitely choose MB or PB.

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I was going to say this same thing, except that he wants play poker and therefore should be closer to Oceanside. He should find himself a sugarmamma in Del Mar.

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acutally being in mission beach or pacific beach puts you right on the 8 which is a straight shot out to the indian casinos. ocean's eleven is not that far a trip either - probably 25/30 minutes max - we used to make the run to both sycuan, viejas and o11 regularly when we lived there.

for something closer to oceanside try del mar - that place is cougar central and has good night life - although is a little more pricey.

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I'd much rather Ocean's 11 than the crappy rooms at the indian casinos. Also, even under ideal conditions, there's no way you're making it to OE from PB in 25 minutes. I lived a few blocks off of I-5 at Del Mar Heights Road and it took me 25 minutes to get up there with just a little traffic.

But... the hot partying chicks are down in PB and MB... Del Mar has cougars. Although, I do like Jimmy O's and there's quite a nice selection of women there on a Friday night. You're going to need some money, though, for them.

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yes in del mar you better be flashing cash or really, really, really good looking - otherwise head to the beach.

jimmy o's is solid and i am a fan of en fuego's as well for a couple of drinks before hitting jimmy o's.

although i have to say that mission beach/pacific beach with the tavern, beachcomber, etc. is pretty solid.

ocean's 11 does have a decent card room and the lower limit games are super soft.

Joe Tall

07-27-2005, 11:58 PM

Does this mean you'll actually leave the house?!?!

San Clemente bro, I told this already. We'll go out there this fall.

"Joetall is thinking of coming with me, but who knows with the way that boy falls in love."

Dude, the old GF is gone, next hand. This one is 6'1", plays volleyball, in a ultimate frisbee league, 23yrs old and has legs and ass like this:

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DO YOU BLAME ME? /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

bugstud

07-28-2005, 12:44 AM

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yeah...not blaming you here. not one bit

BWebb

07-28-2005, 12:48 AM

Lucky tall bastard.

Joe Tall

07-28-2005, 01:33 AM

yeah...not blaming you here. not one bit

I'm still pissed I lost to Luv2DriveTT in the "who's most likely to date a super model contest." Guess I'll throw on the suit coat and spike up my *cough* not-gray *cough* hair for the next meet up and hit the strip joint. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

If I do go it'll be the week of and sublime is planning now, this is what happens when you "nest".

ChipWrecked

07-28-2005, 05:45 AM

Be sure you don't have any fruit or plants in the car when you are stopped at the border of the People's Republik of Kal-lee-foan-ya.

Sponger15SB

07-28-2005, 05:48 AM

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But... the hot partying chicks are down in PB and MB... Del Mar has cougars. Although, I do like Jimmy O's and there's quite a nice selection of women there on a Friday night. You're going to need some money, though, for them.

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yes in del mar you better be flashing cash or really, really, really good looking - otherwise head to the beach.

jimmy o's is solid and i am a fan of en fuego's as well for a couple of drinks before hitting jimmy o's.

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Epazote's > En Fuego > Jimmy O's

The fact that you even named the bar that nobody I know goes to is sad. Jimmy O's....jesus guys cmon

Luv2DriveTT

07-28-2005, 07:52 AM

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yeah...not blaming you here. not one bit

I'm still pissed I lost to Luv2DriveTT in the "who's most likely to date a super model contest." Guess I'll throw on the suit coat and spike up my *cough* not-gray *cough* hair for the next meet up and hit the strip joint. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

If I do go it'll be the week of and sublime is planning now, this is what happens when you "nest".

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Dude.. what do you expect? I work with models, so I have easier access /images/graemlins/cool.gif

Grey hair line - LOW BLOW. grrr.... You are still young, wait till you hit hy age (and still look like your in your mid 20's, that's the secret to my success ya know) and you too will be hitting 23 year olds with no problem /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Sad you can't make it to Bunkfest, since Klepton & Jason T are coming I thought I'd give you guys a rematch /images/graemlins/smile.gif My chances of making it to Foxwoods are becoming slim, I have to work to make up for lost days in August when I'm hanging out at Commerce & the Wynn (I love my job!).

TT /images/graemlins/club.gif

jason_t

07-28-2005, 08:54 AM

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I plan on driving, and setting a course that hits various casino. Anyone want to go for the trip?

PS- Joetall is thinking of coming with me, but who knows with the way that boy falls in love.

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You have made an excellent choice in Southern California.

When are you traveling? You two should stop in Los Angeles on the way, especially if it's in mid-August when rmarotti and TT are visiting here.

Joe Tall

07-28-2005, 04:36 PM

You are still young, wait till you hit hy age (and still look like your in your mid 20's, that's the secret to my success ya know) and you too will be hitting 23 year olds with no problem

Hey, you are not too much older than me...we both "still got it" bro!

Woot!

sfer

07-28-2005, 04:46 PM

23 is old brah.

Joe Tall

07-28-2005, 04:58 PM

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There is a rumor that you finally got laid, is this true? /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

megantw

07-28-2005, 05:31 PM

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23 is old brah.

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I win!

morgan180

07-28-2005, 11:06 PM

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San Clemente bro, I told this already. We'll go out there this fall.

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San Clemente doesn't even compare to the beaches of San Diego - that would be a terrible move - come all that way and end up there? i mean its a nice sleepy beach town but no place to land from the east coast - coming to southern california to live in san clemente is like going to vegas and then staying at the airport hilton -- and never leaving.