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deepsquat
07-06-2005, 08:29 PM
Villain is loose pf and relatively straightfwd over 40 hands. I think it would be more likely that he has a 2 or something better than top pair than he would be bluffing. I really dont think i can fold this.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (2 SB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (2 BB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6 BB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8 BB

Online247
07-06-2005, 08:37 PM
Should be a straight forward fold against typical players.

@bsolute_luck
07-06-2005, 09:24 PM
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Should be a straight forward fold against typical players.

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umm...what? we have top pair. call down is goot.

thesharpie
07-06-2005, 09:24 PM
Raise preflop. You're getting 3 to 1 effective odds once he raises the turn. Even though he is straightforward, I would call down as this is a heads up blind situation, and he might think you're weaker than you are. King crappy kicker might look like a monster to him as you didn't raise preflop.

beset7
07-06-2005, 09:27 PM
I play it the same.

Online247
07-06-2005, 09:29 PM
I missed something. There also needs to be a preflop raise.

TomBrooks
07-06-2005, 09:34 PM
Yes, you can lay it down. FOLD it.

Villian can beat top Pair. That's what he's telling you. He just checkraised you on a big street.

Why don't you believe him?

TomBrooks
07-06-2005, 09:43 PM
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umm...what? we have top pair. call down is goot.

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Villian beats Top Pair. Checkraise on Turn tells me so. Call down nO gOOt.

Now, I might look him up if he does something like this shortly thereafter, just to check if he got some idea that I will always fold to a bluff. Or I might keep an eye on him and see if he pulls such a stunt on anyone else.

@bsolute_luck
07-06-2005, 09:46 PM
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umm...what? we have top pair. call down is goot.

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Villian beats Top Pair. Checkraise on Turn tells me so. Call down nO gOOt.

Now, I might look him up if he does something like this shortly thereafter, just to check if he got some idea that I will always fold to a bluff.

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boo! very poor IMO. 40 hands is no read and he could think you're bluffing. who knows, but folding is foolish.

Duerig
07-06-2005, 11:47 PM
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I think it would be more likely that he has a 2 or something better than top pair than he would be bluffing. I really dont think i can fold this.

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Which is it?

deepsquat
07-07-2005, 06:40 AM
he had 62o!

xenthebrain
07-07-2005, 06:44 AM
Donk completes the SB when it's folded to him?
I'm auto-raising here with KJ.

The rest is fine.

davelin
07-07-2005, 08:17 AM
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Yes, you can lay it down. FOLD it.

Villian can beat top Pair. That's what he's telling you. He just checkraised you on a big street.

Why don't you believe him?



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Because it's HU and blind-vs-blind. In that scenario, a lot of hands will play this way.

KeysrSoze
07-07-2005, 09:56 AM
First, I raise his donk-complete on principal, then it would play differently. But if it does i call down.

imported_The Vibesman
07-07-2005, 10:06 AM
I'd raise preflop, against a loose opponent, he almost surely has a worse hand and will almost surely call with it.

Other than that I play it pretty much the same. If you were positive about your read you could find a fold but I don't think you can be that sure about it with only forty hands.