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Fatdogs12
06-24-2005, 05:33 AM
***** Hand History for Game 2255086534 *****
Trny:13361642 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Friday, June 24, 05:28:39 EDT 2005
Table Table 35311 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: treycortez ( $475 )
Seat 2: Jolie_Fleur ( $655 )
Seat 4: Jedwards0240 ( $755 )
Seat 5: PoofDiddy ( $1003 )
Seat 6: fatdogs12 ( $730 )
Seat 7: goodgonace ( $2550 )
Seat 9: Coldiron4 ( $698 )
Seat 10: Treplev ( $1134 )
Trny:13361642 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to fatdogs12 [ Kc Kh ]
Jedwards0240 raises [90].
PoofDiddy folds.
>You have options at Table 17599 Table!.
fatdogs12 calls [90].
goodgonace calls [90].
Coldiron4 folds.
Treplev folds.
treycortez folds.
Jolie_Fleur folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 9c, 2h ]
Jedwards0240 bets [60].
fatdogs12 is all-In [640]
goodgonace folds.
Jedwards0240 folds.
fatdogs12 shows [ Kc, Kh ] a pair of kings.
fatdogs12 wins 1015 chips from the main pot with a pair of kings.

HesseJam
06-24-2005, 06:23 AM
No.

sahala
06-24-2005, 06:44 AM
Make a smaller raise. I think you want a call here as long as you make it expensive to draw. This may be too much of an overbet.

Don't show your cards next time /images/graemlins/smile.gif

lorinda
06-24-2005, 06:45 AM
Call me old fashioned, but I like to raise preflop with the second best hand in the game.

Lori

Myst
06-24-2005, 07:07 AM
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Call me old fashioned, but I like to raise preflop with the second best hand in the game.

Lori

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Me too Lorinda... Me too.

Benholio
06-24-2005, 07:16 AM
Raise pre-flop. This might also increase the pot size on the flop, making your push on the flop less of an overbet.

With AA/KK I like to try and pace the hand to where the betting finishes on the flop. Ideally you either win a decent pot uncontested, or double up vs. top pair who gets in on the flop. If there are 400 chips in the pot on the flop and I have 700 in my stack, I don't mind getting them all in on most flops with AA/KK overpair.

Fatdogs12
06-24-2005, 07:34 AM
Yeah that makes sense. I guess my thinking there was that I didn't want to reraise and get raised back and then have to go up against something like AQ. I mean it was probably the right thing to do but because of my position I was a scared. What should the reraise be to, 200?

I mean it was early too and usually early I don't want to go down with the ship esp. with someone who is stupid (not that I know any of the players to be stupid).

I suppose witha flop like this though you are probably going to win a small pot (or possibly medium) or get broke.
Am I wrong?

Later

45suited
06-24-2005, 08:31 AM
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Yeah that makes sense. I guess my thinking there was that I didn't want to reraise and get raised back and then have to go up against something like AQ

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Why wouldn't you want to be a 7:3 favorite pre-flop? If you re-raise (as you should, IMO) and he re-raises, that is perfect! You have kings. Then you push pre-flop as a 7:3 favorite. The way you played it, AQ gets off cheap after he whiffs the flop.

pokerlaw
06-24-2005, 08:36 AM
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I guess my thinking there was that I didn't want to reraise and get raised back and then have to go up against something like AQ.

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this would be bad because??

kyro
06-24-2005, 09:17 AM
Re-raise PF. Stop playing "I'm a little girl" poker and you'll do just fine.

zambonidrivr
06-24-2005, 09:24 AM
NO! A raise is in order, and make sure you take away proper calling odds from anyone drawing to a diamond flush. When holding a hand like kings, you are trying to extract chips.

gl.

BISCO
06-24-2005, 12:51 PM
bad play not re-raising preflop, why the hell would you not want to get all the money in with KK vs. AQ?

what hand containing an ace could possibly be better for you here?

AQ vs. KK (no shared suits) = 28.4 - 71.6

A2s vs KK (no shared suits) = 32.5 - 67.5

to reiterate what others said...stop playing like a little girl.

OCCASIONALLY BIG POCKET PAIRS WILL GET CRACKED IN POKER, GET OVER IT