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Sponger15SB
06-21-2005, 03:33 PM
$33 SNG

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

CO (t675)
Button (t770)
SB (t875)
BB (t925)
UTG (t800)
Hero (t800)
UTG+2 (t705)
MP1 (t755)
MP2 (t1035)
MP3 (t660)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t60</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t60, MP2 calls t60, MP3 calls t60, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: (t262.50) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t225</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t225, MP3 calls t225.

Turn: (t937.50) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t375</font>, MP3 folds, Hero ?????


Any other ideas? Should I have checked the turn or bet???

Lady Dont Tekno
06-21-2005, 04:09 PM
Cool hand. Yeah this is a tough one. I think this is a good example of how the extra 200 chips at the $55s+ can really help.

So the only way you're winning this hand is betting the turn, if you check I think you're automatically out. However that play is too risky and I think you're better off with the check/fold.

Get em next time slugger.

//LDT

lastchance
06-21-2005, 04:26 PM
Check/fold the turn IMHO. Into two opponents, it's bad to lead out again.

adanthar
06-21-2005, 04:30 PM
Too bad he hit a 6 outer or a set. Oh well, turns happen.

Karak567
06-21-2005, 04:31 PM
:-( to raising JJ early position level 1.

I really really don't like doing that.

You will get too many callers, you will be out of position and 50 % of the time the flop will come overcards with no jack.

I could be wrong with my opinions here - but this is the eternal debate - just my two cents.

45suited
06-21-2005, 04:38 PM
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:-( to raising JJ early position level 1.

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I'm waiting for round 57 of this debate to begin....

I'll jump in right away, I don't see anything wrong with raising.

Sponger15SB
06-21-2005, 04:54 PM
Alright so nobody here likes a check-raise all in?

benza13
06-21-2005, 04:59 PM
I like the check raise if you are deeper, but it doesn't seem like you have enough chips to push him off of anything in this situation.

lastchance
06-21-2005, 04:59 PM
I don't see anything wrong with raising either. At an insnanely LP (loose-passive) table, I think limping is fine.

Unarmed
06-21-2005, 05:05 PM
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Alright so nobody here likes a check-raise all in?

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Nah...
If the action had gone check/check/bet, then you can get all aggro and C/R all-in. But in this case MP2 will have a hand most of the time as he's not closing the action.

microbet
06-21-2005, 05:12 PM
I'm a little worried that you were behind already on the flop. Is the K on the turn that scary? Because of KT? Do you think MP2 calls the flop bet with AK?

Unarmed
06-21-2005, 05:17 PM
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I'm a little worried that you were behind already on the flop.

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Me too. MP2 either has a king or can beat a king.

Sponger15SB
06-21-2005, 07:08 PM
Ok now what if I told you that I check-raised all in, got a call and he had AT and then I typed out "ship it! holla! outplayed you BITCHHHH maybe next time you should fold TPTK when playing WITH [censored] GOD" at the showdown?

Would I seriously be to results oriented or did I just make a really good play or is this other guy an effing retard and I was taking his stack no matter what