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octaveshift
06-19-2005, 12:09 AM
I put both villains on an ace. I think pushing the river would result in both calling more often than not. Was it stupid just to raise?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t775)
SB (t1655)
Hero (t790)
UTG (t1655)
UTG+1 (t1260)
MP1 (t560)
MP2 (t955)
CO (t350)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (t52.50) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks.

Turn: (t52.50) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t50</font>, CO calls t50, Hero calls t50.

River: (t202.50) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t50</font>, CO calls t50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, UTG calls t150, CO calls t150.

Final Pot: t802.50
jon462
06-19-2005, 12:29 AM
considering the very limited action until your raise, I wouldnt be surprised if one of them had a seven (especially the caller).. that said, if one of them has an ace I dont think he could fold to your push, so it wouldnt hurt to try
edit: I just realized how short the cutoff is... he is not folding here A or prolly even 7, so why not push.. even if the other player folds, you take out the shortstack and you get great FE when the blinds get bigger
Karak567
06-19-2005, 01:00 AM
I think you have to bet the turn. FLush draw is out - you don't want to give a free card and an ace fell so that probably hit one of them. Lead out with 1/2 pot on the turn would be my move.

Then lead out on the river.
lastchance
06-19-2005, 01:02 AM
That's a very good idea. Represent the ace, bet 1/2 pot.

I definitely like it a lot. I think check-raising the turn might also be a good idea.
HonestIago15
06-19-2005, 02:27 AM
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I think you have to bet the turn. FLush draw is out - you don't want to give a free card and an ace fell so that probably hit one of them. Lead out with 1/2 pot on the turn would be my move.


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I might bet more, but then again I'm INCREDIBLY paranoid about flush draws and donks calling with them.
lastchance
06-19-2005, 02:29 AM
Eh... With two opponents, I like 2/3 to 3/4 pot.