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TredWel
06-06-2005, 02:37 PM
The hand plays itself after the turn, but I'm interested in hearing about people's reaction to the flop raise. It feels too aggressive, but no other action seems better.

Villain is a TAG, and a regular at this site and level.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+2 calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

benkath1
06-06-2005, 02:41 PM
Fold preflop. Everything else looks fine.

Rev. Good Will
06-06-2005, 02:43 PM
If its a loose table, I see nothing wrong with that call

Bodhi
06-06-2005, 02:43 PM
No, preflop limp is fine. Reread SSHE.

Bodhi
06-06-2005, 02:44 PM
SSHE says you can limp in MP in a tight game here.

Rev. Good Will
06-06-2005, 02:50 PM
I don't think the pot is big enought to show this kind of aggression.

if the bettor was in the SB or BB, and you had a few callers before the raise, then yes, I like it. By raising here, its as if you want to isolate the bettor, a no-no given your read.

EDIT - no-no almost always unless villian is a LAG/chronic bluffer

Rev. Good Will
06-06-2005, 02:52 PM
eh, I'm mucking it for now in that spot cause I don't feel comfortable yet with K9s postflop. Eventually I will though.

Sarge85
06-06-2005, 02:52 PM
(I think you'll get better responses if you don't post the whole hand. I would have ended the hand on the flop where you raised.)

Let me think.

I don't think I like the raise. You can't really clean up your outs. I'm mainly thinking of QJ as your threat if you hit your King. They would certainly call two bets with an OE Str8 draw.

So i guess it's the gut shots your chasing out, but they shouldn't be calling anyway.

Your ahead of a semi bluff - as I think a bet from this early on is more often than not a possible Jack more than QT or something of that nature.

I think calling the flop is better here. I'd probably fold had it not been for the Back Door draws you have. I want to see a turn card, but not for two bets.

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DeathDonkey
06-06-2005, 02:55 PM
I play the same though sometimes I raise preflop. Folding preflop is just silly.

-DeathDonkey

benkath1
06-06-2005, 02:58 PM
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eh, I'm mucking it for now in that spot cause I don't feel comfortable yet with K9s postflop. Eventually I will though.

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I would like one less seat between me and the button with this hand. Eventually I will though. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif