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09-17-2001, 11:28 PM
THE UNITED STATES GOVERMENT SHOULD WIPE OUT THE WHOLE AFGANISTAN FROM THE MAP!!! WE DONT WANT BINLADEN HANDED OVER BECAUSE THAT WOULD SPOIL IT. WE MUST BOMB AFGANISTAN TO HELL.... TIME TO GIVE THE WORLD SOME SOLID SPANKING....


THIS WILL BRING PEACE AND SECURITY TO THE UNITED STATES FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT 20 YEARS. NO ONE WILL BE STUPID ENOUGH TO THINK TWICE ABOUT ATTACKING AMERICA AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.


LET EM ROLL!!!!!!

09-18-2001, 12:11 AM
natedogg

09-18-2001, 12:56 AM
You must have given this idea your total attention for what maybe eight seconds.


SPM,...keep your day job...

09-18-2001, 02:24 AM
Afghanistan is already a disaster. Over 1,500,000 Afghanis have been killed in civil war, in which we participated, in the past 22 years. Over 400,000 were killed by mines, another 400,000 injured. Girls' schools have been closed down and, since most of the teachers at boys' schools were women, over 90% of girls and approx. 2/3 of boys are not enrolled in school. Not surprisingly, illiteracy affects similar percentages.


The infant mortality rate is 163 deaths per 1,000 (18%), the highest in the world. Twenty-five percent of all children die before they reach their fifth birthday. Life expectancy is approx. 44 years. Only 29% of the population has access to health care and only 12% has access to safe water.


In the capital of Kabul, 2/3 of children interviewed by a UNICEF survey had seen somebody killed by a rocket and scattered corpses or body parts. More than 70% had lost a family member and no longer trusted adults. Every form of entertainment has been banned: videos, TV, music,, sports, kite-flying dancing, all banned. Nobody is allowed to hang paintings, portraits or photographs in their homes.


Your recommendations in your post coincide nicely with the Untied States policy so far, which can be summarized in the following points:


1) In 1986, the CIA persuaded the U.S. Congress to provide the guerilla movement fighting the communit government, fromwhich the Taliban emerged, with American-made Singer anti-aircraft missiles to shoot down Soviet planes and provide U.S. advisers totrains the guerillas.


2) The CIA also helped plan guerilla attacks into the Soviet Socialist Republics of Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. So much for the supposed ban on the CIA not utilizing unsavory clients.


3) Most importantly, the CIA supported the recruiting of radical Muslims from around the world to come to Pakistan and fight with the Afghan guerillas. You may have heard of one of of them: Osama Bin Laden.


4) This guerilla war we supported left behind an alliance of Islamist organizations intent on promoting Islam against all non-muslim forces, a legacy of expert and experienced fighters, training camps and logistical facilities, elaborate networks of personal and organization relationships, a substantial amount of military equipments, including 300 to 400 unaccounted-for Stinger missiiles (which may soon be accounted for) and, most importantly, as we found out last week, a heady sense of power and self-confidence and a desire to move on to other battles.


5) Once the Soviets left Afghanistan, we completely ignored the country, slashing our commitment to the UN for humanitarian aid for the suffering people.


The place has already been wiped off the map for all intents and purposes and is already a hell for its people. Hopefully, our leaders can come up with a more enlightened policy than you, but recent history doesn't give one much confidence.

09-18-2001, 05:28 AM
Excellent post Mr. Fox. I wish more had read yours instead of whitemarcher's.

09-18-2001, 06:41 AM
My response is to Andy Foxx.


I am on welfare. My feet are both so swollen I can't run. I

have seven mouths to feed. No car. No television. The government

pays my rent. I go to the local shelter for food. all my kids

and wife have No health care. The rats and roaches eat better than I do at my residence.


I just killed your whole family.

Please let me go because of the above.

09-18-2001, 07:54 AM
The question is not whether you should be let go, but whether your wife and children should be spared.


It is my understanding that most Afghanis do not support the Taliban government.

09-18-2001, 08:09 AM
It is your belief that the average Afghan has endured so much, has a life so pitiful and holds prospects of future happiness so dim that the sole humanitarian gesture available to the United States is to see to it that every last resident of the country enters paradise through the mechanics of explosive fragmentation.


You are seriously overdue for a marble inventory. If you don't know what this is, just go to the most convenient public health office, and relate your concerns to the staff. They'll handle it from there.

09-18-2001, 08:54 AM
If you ask a member of the Taliban leadership who put them in the office he may easily say "Allah", because they certainly didn't earn their place in a popular election. They are there through the happenstance of consolidation of Mujadeen fighting groups at the conclusion of the Soviet-Afghan War.


In actual fact, it seems it would almost be difficult to find a replacement that is more disliked.


My sincere hope is that the Muslim world understands that the Taliban's calls for Muslim unity in opposition to us, and yesterday's declaration of a Jihad against us, are entirely self-serving. They seem to hold knee-jerk support within Pakistan. But even the Iranian Fundamentalists, who used to be world leaders in self-anointed self-righteousness, apparently feel the Taliban are steeped in excess.


By the way, can any readers tell me the fate of the Iranian Bahai?

09-18-2001, 12:16 PM
I don't think the entire population of Afghanistan is to blame for the deaths in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania last week. Those responsible should be punished.


Your attitude is the same as the terrorists. When Palestinian terrorists kill Jewish Israeli civiilians, they are taking the same attitude. It's murder, period. Is this what we want our country to do?