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KingDan
05-28-2005, 12:28 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t1830)
Hero (t2015)
UTG (t1885)
Button (t2270)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t300</font>, Button calls t300, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t200.

Flop: (t950) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t325</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1275

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t1830)
Hero (t2015)
UTG (t1885)
Button (t2270)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t300</font>, Button calls t300, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t200.

Flop: (t950) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t325</font>, Hero folds, UTG folds.

Final Pot: t1275

Both players solid, somewhat tight.

Was this weaktight?
valenzuela
05-28-2005, 12:30 PM
re-raise all-in IMO, ure hand is good enough and ure stack is shallow enough.
KingDan
05-28-2005, 12:48 PM
Had it been heads up I definitely would have but the coldcaller scared me... I think I am getting pps &lt;88 to fold if I push... and more often I am coinflip/owned when called.

How is this line of thinking?
microbet
05-28-2005, 01:02 PM
Push. Most likely button called because he had a few extra chips lying around. The pot is plenty big and you sure as heck want a lot of hands that would have called to fold (e.g. KQ, AQ).
johnnybeef
05-28-2005, 01:13 PM
this hand is a difficult one for me as with 20 bb, i am not a big fan of coming over the top of a raise....but the 4 handedness turns jj into a premium hand....i push preflop but am not happy about it.

edit: i like your play on the flop...and after reviewing it maybe this is one of those few times that it becomes correct to reraise to ~1000 with the intent of calling a push (which becomes correct due to opponents willingness to make this play on you with 77+, ak and aq)...that being said, this situation doesnt come up all that often. im really curious to see what some of the 109 and 215ers say about this one.
chopchoi
05-28-2005, 01:42 PM
Not bad, but a push wouldn't have been bad either. You are right that you would not be a big favorite if you pushed pf and were called.

So you gave up your fold-equity for the security of seeing a flop before you commit your chips. Your stack is deep enough that wanting to live to fight another day isn't such a bad idea.
Ogre
05-28-2005, 02:18 PM
I push both pf to win 450.
NYCNative
05-28-2005, 02:26 PM
I push both preflop. Jacks are the fifth best starting hand in poker and you're only four-handed. I've seen people push much worse on the bubble.
KingDan
05-28-2005, 02:39 PM
Didn't notice I posted it twice. For some reason my computer
and been double 'pasting' everything when I control c then control v.

Odd.

Anyway, NYC, I think the flat call is more scary than a push in that situation.
NYCNative
05-28-2005, 04:12 PM
I've found the "UTG Monster Limp" is a play that is far too esoteric for the $11s. Maybe higher levels have more sophistication ijn that regard. What buy-in was this? $33? Dunno...