Flop set, Turn boat, River Quads NL 25 PP [Archive]

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utmt40

05-25-2005, 02:31 AM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Also to let you all know, I only sat down with 15 at this table trying to play somewhat short to see how I play. Secondly, how much would you bet on the river to get a call. Did I miss play this at the end? Comments on all streets welcome. Thanks

UTG ($24.38)
UTG+1 ($31.95)
Hero ($14.75)
MP2 ($24.25)
MP3 ($24.23)
CO ($3.89)
Button ($20.8)
SB ($85.87)
BB ($26.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.1.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.15, 4 folds, SB (poster) calls $1.05, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.90.

Flop: ($3.70) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2.5, SB folds, UTG+1 calls $2.50.

Turn: ($8.70) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $4.25, UTG+1 calls $4.25.

River: ($17.20) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero calls $6.85 (All-In), UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: $24.05

Results in white below: 
Hero has Kd Ks (four of a kind, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins $24.05.

-Skeme-

05-25-2005, 02:47 AM

How is there a way to misplay the river? You're giving him 4:1 to call with second best hand, it's fine. There's no other move to make. If he folds, it's got nothing to do with your bet size. You didn't push him out or anything. It's because he missed with QT or clubs.

utmt40

05-25-2005, 02:50 AM

Thats kind of what I was thinking but you always want a caller on that kind of hand. Thanks

-Skeme-

05-25-2005, 02:51 AM

Do you really think he'll call $4 into a $17 pot, but not $6? If he had any piece of the flop he'd be calling your all in. You didn't push him off of anything. The board is KKJJ4. If he has a Jack, he calls. If he has a King, he calls. Obviously he doesn't have a King, and Jacks full doesn't fold.

utmt40

05-25-2005, 02:53 AM

At this level there is really no telling but if he was on a draw then he isnt calling reguardless.

-Skeme-

05-25-2005, 03:05 AM

It's clear he was on a draw. May I ask how long you've been playing?

utmt40

05-25-2005, 03:19 AM

I hope that wasnt meant as an insult. But I have been playing for a little over 2 years now. Seriously playing for about a year. The reason I posted this hand is because I have misplayed quads on several occasions and wanted another oppinion. I personally thought it was solidly done but the people here are a lot better than myself and I like asking for help so I thought I would get a second oppinion. Hope this answers your question.

-Skeme-

05-25-2005, 03:21 AM

No, it wasn't an insult at all. I apologize if that's how it sounded. Don't worry, you played the hand fine.

utmt40

05-25-2005, 03:22 AM

Thank you for your help.

edge

05-25-2005, 04:24 AM

It's not clear he was on a draw. A pocket pair would fold this river too.

You played the hand fine. Once you get called on the flop, it's great. Top set QQ-AA rarely gets paid, since you generally cripple the deck (set over set is cool though).

-Skeme-

05-25-2005, 06:19 AM

A PP is possible, but that's not really my point. The point I was trying to make was, his bet didn't force out a hand that would've otherwise called. His question was whether or not he botched the river as some opponent's call less. I'm saying nobody is gonna fold for a $6 bet, but call a $4 bet, or whatever it may be.

3N1GM4

05-25-2005, 06:22 AM

Yeah, looks like you played it fine to me.

I like that you included the results. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif