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Leonardo
05-17-2005, 10:40 PM
In addition to what David wrote, I think it is possible that many people have not considered the following:

Daniel may have been preparing for these matches for months/years (1 or 2 anyway). I think that, as David said, Daniel is WAY more sophisticated in his thinking than a lot of people give him credit for. Of course he is going to say "I'm probably not a favourite in these matches etc. etc." .

Is it not possible that for the last year, Daniel has been working incredibly hard on his heads up game, run the math simulations, worked on strategy, played on the net etc etc, then just come out and said "I just feel like gambling, so lets play" ?

My take on the really, really good players is that they pretend that the game isn't extremely mathematical, they don't talk about the math, the preparation etc, they just act as though they turn up and play. I think the really really good players are doing a lot of work behind the scenes.

In summary, I believe that Daniel is a decent favourite in ALL THESE MATCHES. I think he has been working his butt off in the background, waiting for the opportunity to take a lot of players for a lot of money.

Phill S
05-18-2005, 12:15 AM
i agree with your statement that he has been practicing hard for a while. without evidence of course.

i dont seriously believe DN would risk such a huge chunk of change on a long shot chance.

i dont think that he is a fave in all forthcoming matches, but i dont think hes as big a dog as anyone previously thought.

the association with the poker academy is really interesting, and i agree with the poster in that thread that it isnt that well known.

who knows how long he has been practicing for. how long has he been associated with the Wynn? perhaps its been longer than that.

ive never believed the "i had a feeling" sorta image he has projected for so long. i give him more credit than most - what you dont know, you cant judge.

Phill

paperchamp
05-18-2005, 12:55 AM
I think he definitely uses the fact that some people don't give him the credit he deserves to his advantage. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he comes up a decent winner when the HU matches are all said and done.

cwsiggy
05-18-2005, 01:45 AM
It will be interesting to see who else will step up. I have to imagine Ivey will at some point for 7 card stud.

BISCO
05-18-2005, 03:32 AM
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It will be interesting to see who else will step up. I have to imagine Ivey will at some point for 7 card stud.

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pfffft

ivey is too busy promoting cockfights in the alley behind the el cortez to bother with daniel.

d1sterbd
05-18-2005, 11:49 AM
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In summary, I believe that Daniel is a decent favourite in ALL THESE MATCHES. I think he has been working his butt off in the background, waiting for the opportunity to take a lot of players for a lot of money.

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Are you saying that you think DN is the best heads up player at every poker game? I don't think anyone will agree with this statement.

grandgnu
05-18-2005, 12:15 PM
This is total BS. Daniel is doing this to obtain media attention for Wynn Casino, plain and simple. The money involved does not matter.

It's all about advertising, the Wynn is likely covering the money that Daniel is risking, because it's likely worth more to them in advertising value than the 100-500K cost of covering him.

Fallen Hero
05-18-2005, 12:52 PM
DN has already said he is backing himself 100% on these matches and while he may have his faults everyone agrees he's very honest.

grandgnu
05-18-2005, 02:56 PM
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DN has already said he is backing himself 100% on these matches and while he may have his faults everyone agrees he's very honest.

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Alright, fair enough, but that does NOT mean he isn't receiving some form of kickback or deal for drumming up the extra advertising for Wynn Casino.

Daniel is no longer a poker player, he is a businessman. And while I applaud his success, and doing what's best for him, I no longer care for him as a person like I used to. He lost the humbleness/modestness that made him enjoyable to watch.

At least he isn't in Josh Arieh or Antonio Esfarianda territory yet, as far as attitudes go.

RowdyZ
05-18-2005, 03:12 PM
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DN has already said he is backing himself 100% on these matches and while he may have his faults everyone agrees he's very honest.

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Alright, fair enough, but that does NOT mean he isn't receiving some form of kickback or deal for drumming up the extra advertising for Wynn Casino.

Daniel is no longer a poker player, he is a businessman. And while I applaud his success, and doing what's best for him, I no longer care for him as a person like I used to. He lost the humbleness/modestness that made him enjoyable to watch.

At least he isn't in Josh Arieh or Antonio Esfarianda territory yet, as far as attitudes go.

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Actually the more I read at Antonio's site the more I dislike the guy. The more I read at Josh's site the harder I find it to dislike him as much. His blog is very down to earth and no bragging what so ever alot of times little poker content but just day to day living and stuff.

RZ

chucksim
05-18-2005, 03:38 PM
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DN has already said he is backing himself 100% on these matches and while he may have his faults everyone agrees he's very honest.

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Alright, fair enough, but that does NOT mean he isn't receiving some form of kickback or deal for drumming up the extra advertising for Wynn Casino.


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He's most certainly being paid well to be the "Ambassador" for Wynn's poker room. My guess is that he took on that role with the terms of the deal being that he would do this or some other high stakes "promotion" of his choosing in the room in order to drum up business and publicity.

The casino probably isn't directly taking a piece of his action in this, but I'd guess his ambassador's pay is a good chunk of his BR for this endeavor. If he didn't have this job, I don't think he'd have been sitting in a corner at Bellagio waiting to take on all comers.

niwotyalpi
05-18-2005, 03:51 PM
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If he didn't have this job, I don't think he'd have been sitting in a corner at Bellagio waiting to take on all comers.

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Agreed.

sexypanda
05-18-2005, 04:14 PM
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If he didn't have this job, I don't think he'd have been sitting in a corner at Bellagio waiting to take on all comers.

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Agreed.

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Also, what better way to improve your game than play the best. I'm sure the experience and lessons he's going to learn over the next few months could make him the best heads up player in any game in the future. This is really a win/win for Negreanu.