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oreogod
05-07-2005, 10:55 PM
AK lovely hand, sometimes u get lovely situations and then sometimes u get cuckolded.

Now hand 1 I dont think theres much wrong in the way of it. Hand 2, probably should have checked the turn, but once he checks to me I was a bit thrown off, didnt expect that. No specific reads (not enough hands) but villians are both loose, Hand one villian has some aggressive tendecies...Hand 2 opponents are the same, with UTG+1 being a bit more passive.



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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. UTG posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG folds.

Flop: (9.40 SB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, Button folds, BB folds.

Turn: (5.70 BB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls.

River: (7.70 BB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.70 BB


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Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (13.40 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.70 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (12.70 BB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 18.70 BB
gharp
05-07-2005, 11:01 PM
Hand 1: I think this is good. I'd probably bet the river if the third spade hadn't fallen, but check/call when it hit, like you did.

Hand 2: Like you mentioned, I'd check that turn too. His flop raise probably says he connected with the board somehow. You still haven't, so I'd take the free card.

River raise from a passive player would concern me, but I think you can't fold TPTK getting about 8:1.
ArturiusX
05-07-2005, 11:04 PM
Anyone else like a river fold in hand 2?
shadow29
05-07-2005, 11:05 PM
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Anyone else like a river fold in hand 2?

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I like river folds in both hands.
oreogod
05-07-2005, 11:17 PM
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Anyone else like a river fold in hand 2?

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Yeah Im not a big fan of my hand 2 by any means. I think a river fold is a must. But when I hit the low limits, I find Im a liberal caller (not preflop, but right around the turn or river)...I really have to focus on treating the games down there like I do ones a bit higher up.
@bsolute_luck
05-07-2005, 11:19 PM
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I like river folds in both hands.

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that's what i was thinking.
ArturiusX
05-07-2005, 11:21 PM
Whats your WTSD%?
oreogod
05-08-2005, 12:00 AM
These numbers are rough as I just lost all my databases last week do to a faulty laptop hardrive.

But for the Pokerstars BR project right now I am at

WTSD:42
W$SD:59

On the higher limits Im about 38-45ish on showdowns with a W$SD being about 60ish percent. But thats over only 5000 hands. This is all from memory though so it may be a little off.

Sucks losing your info.
ArturiusX
05-08-2005, 12:54 AM
You're running embarrisingly good with both those stats very high.

Mines at WTSD: 33%, W$SD: 52%, which is normal.

You're going to showdown way to much.
Terrabon98
05-08-2005, 01:00 AM
I think both of these hands depend primarily on the type of players you're up against. Honestly, even with AK in that second hand, with a bet and a raise in front of you, I fold this unless I have some reason not to (i.e. reads). Hand 1 could go either way.
oreogod
05-08-2005, 01:21 AM
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You're running embarrisingly good with both those stats very high.

Mines at WTSD: 33%, W$SD: 52%, which is normal.

You're going to showdown way to much.

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Well thats unfiltered stats if I remember, I think with 9-10 handed its more in your range...I wish could check. And thats over a range of limits, both higher and loose.

This example may not be the best, but I do pretty well, and with prop pay its good.

Right now I dont have a big enough size to tell me much of anything...like the last two nights, total I played about 400 hands (one of those sessions these hands came from) and I was 34, 39 resectivly. Not to great. On absolute they have a hand counter and over 913 hands on my gfs computer I am 33 55 respectivly (old mixed sessions)
i wanna be me
05-08-2005, 07:43 AM
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Anyone else like a river fold in hand 2?

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I like river folds in both hands.

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