AQo facing a limp-reraise, and not liking it

[mute]

UTG+1 is a solid multitabling TAG, who is 18/8/1.8 after 1600 hands. I don't recall having ever seen him limp-reraise before, and I feel that I should be really concerned about AA or KK here.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (10.50 BB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

[wrto4556]

I play it the same.

[bweiser8311962]

he's got kings. otherwise he raises the river, right?

someone pulled this crap on me yesterday with aces. limps in early. i raise on the buttom with 88 ... flopped a set. doubled up.

[Piiop]

I play it the same with the plan of calling 1 river bet if I don't improve.

[Bill C]

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UTG+1 is a solid multitabling TAG, who is 18/8/1.8 after 1600 hands. I don't recall having ever seen him limp-reraise before, and I feel that I should be really concerned about AA or KK here.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)


Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (10.50 BB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

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With TPTK I raise the flop, if for no other reason than to tell him, "I'm here, and I have a better than random hand."
Also with the flush draw out, I want to charge the drawers, if any.

I agree that he looks like maybe KK, but why did he call Hero's bet when the Ace fell on the river? Crying?

bc

[mr pink]

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With TPTK I raise the flop, if for no other reason than to tell him, "I'm here, and I have a better than random hand."
Also with the flush draw out, I want to charge the drawers, if any.


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what good does telling him you have a hand do? all it does is open up a good spot for him to 3-bet you, which will happen close to 100% of the time given the opponents description. if the villain has AA or KK, you charge yourself more to get to a showdown. if he's betting something like an unimproved AKs, you give him a chance to fold on the turn when he's drawing to 3 outs. raising the flop doesn't charge the flush draws anything, it's actually doing them a favor.

[CallMeIshmael]

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I play it the same with the plan of calling 1 river bet if I don't improve.

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[Perseus]

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With TPTK I raise the flop, if for no other reason than to tell him, "I'm here, and I have a better than random hand."
Also with the flush draw out, I want to charge the drawers, if any.


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what good does telling him you have a hand do? all it does is open up a good spot for him to 3-bet you, which will happen close to 100% of the time given the opponents description. if the villain has AA or KK, you charge yourself more to get to a showdown. if he's betting something like an unimproved AKs, you give him a chance to fold on the turn when he's drawing to 3 outs. raising the flop doesn't charge the flush draws anything, it's actually doing them a favor.

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How about knocking out the SB which eliminates some chance of being drawn out on if you are ahead.

[CallMeIshmael]

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How about knocking out the SB which eliminates some chance of being drawn out on if you are ahead.

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Thats not worth having to put 3 bets into the pot with the worst hand a lot of the time, IMO.

[Yobz]

Its not a bad line, I assume villian has KK based on your read?

[mute]

Yep, he showed me his KK. Looking through his PT stats afterwards I noticed that he had limp/reraised once before with AKs.

[masonx]

i think you played it fine. Ive seen people limp/r with some crazy [censored], even tags.