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PokerBob
04-14-2005, 08:42 PM
pf raise here is 42/14 through 30, so I thoought I'd get his ass HU. The other donker is 44/8/.4 through 50. What do ya do with this turn?

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (12.33 SB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (12.66 BB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???????

einbert
04-14-2005, 08:51 PM
Totally agreed on the PF 3-bet.

So UTG+2 is very passive and doing this? With two other players in if you're up against QJ (very possible IMO) you're breakeven on a cap, and you're definitely not folding the river for one bet. He could also have a lot of two pair hands, even though he's passive through 50 hands it doesn't mean he won't go crazy with KT here. I cap it and call the river UI, if I fill up I'm going as many bets as possible on the river.

chesspain
04-14-2005, 08:55 PM
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So UTG+2 is very passive and doing this? With two other players in if you're up against QJ (very possible IMO)

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That would be my guess


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you're breakeven on a cap,

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I don't think so.

einbert
04-14-2005, 08:58 PM
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you're breakeven on a cap,

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I don't think so.

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Not if his hand range is only QJ. But I think he also has an overplayed two pair here a decent amount of the time, which you are WAY ahead of.

PokerBob
04-14-2005, 08:59 PM
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you're breakeven on a cap,

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I don't think so.

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Me neither.

einbert
04-14-2005, 09:00 PM
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you're breakeven on a cap,

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I don't think so.

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Me neither.

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Your stats are only over 50 hands. If you think that's enough to put him squarely on QJ with no other possibilities, then of course you're right. But I don't think that's the case.

cnfuzzd
04-14-2005, 09:03 PM
if the EP limper is that loose, do you really think he is folding to your iso raise?

call the turn.

peace

john nickle

PokerBob
04-14-2005, 09:10 PM
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if the EP limper is that loose, do you really think he is folding to your iso raise?



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Not sure, but I wanted him to PAY if he wanted to come along.

PokerBob
04-14-2005, 09:43 PM
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pf raise here is 42/14 through 30, so I thoought I'd get his ass HU. The other donker is 44/8/.4 through 50. What do ya do with this turn?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (12.33 SB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (12.66 BB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???????

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I capped it. Both dumdums called.

River: 4 /images/graemlins/heart.gif
check, check, hero???????

mute
04-15-2005, 07:26 PM
I would give the turn 3bet from a passive player a lot of respect, so I'm checking this through. Likely he just got scared of the flush. Also the LAG could have hit the flush, and is looking to check-raise.

Luv2DriveTT
04-16-2005, 09:41 AM
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I would give the turn 3bet from a passive player a lot of respect, so I'm checking this through.

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Schizo
04-16-2005, 12:48 PM
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if the EP limper is that loose, do you really think he is folding to your iso raise?

call the turn.

peace

john nickle

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iso raise?

bisonbison
04-16-2005, 12:49 PM
iso raise?

How many English words begin with 'iso...'?