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Bigdaddydvo
03-28-2005, 05:36 PM
This was insane. I have no regrets about how I played it:

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (24.50 SB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (22.25 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (39.25 BB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 43.25 BB

iluzion
03-28-2005, 05:38 PM
play looks good.. results?

TomBrooks
03-28-2005, 07:02 PM
Edit: I play it the same.

tiltaholic
03-28-2005, 07:04 PM
Post deleted by tiltaholic

TomBrooks
03-28-2005, 07:10 PM
I made mistakes. I was in the process of editing, but you replied before I finished.

tiltaholic
03-28-2005, 07:14 PM
i'm quick like that.... sorry.
consider my post deleted.

Entity
03-28-2005, 07:20 PM
I'd just coldcall preflop. I think the rest is fine.

Rob

tiltaholic
03-28-2005, 07:24 PM
entity-

I responded in another thread today ( cold calling (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Number=2023008&amp;page=1&amp;view=colla psed&amp;sb=5&amp;o=&amp;fpart=2&amp;vc=1) ) about possibly 3-betting KQs and mid pairs after a handful of cold callers and EP raise.

Am I wrong abot 3-betting KQs here?

btspider
03-28-2005, 07:28 PM
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entity-

I responded in another thread today ( cold calling (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Number=2023008&amp;page=1&amp;view=colla psed&amp;sb=5&amp;o=&amp;fpart=2&amp;vc=1) ) about possibly 3-betting KQs and mid pairs after a handful of cold callers and EP raise.

Am I wrong abot 3-betting KQs here?

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nah, don't reopen the betting. it *might* be correct to cap an EP/MP limp-reraiser if you raised a bunch of limpers in LP.

the limpers hands are likely to be a tad weaker than cold-callers' range. also, the LRR is probably less likely to have you dominated than a straightforward EP raise. i think SSH does this with ATs in one example.

Entity
03-28-2005, 07:29 PM
[ QUOTE ]
entity-

I responded in another thread today ( cold calling (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Number=2023008&amp;page=1&amp;view=colla psed&amp;sb=5&amp;o=&amp;fpart=2&amp;vc=1) ) about possibly 3-betting KQs and mid pairs after a handful of cold callers and EP raise.

Am I wrong abot 3-betting KQs here?

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I'd coldcall with both KQs and 88 in that situation (same goes for 99). I'd be more likely to 3-bet if the raise came from later position and there were less callers trapped in between.

KQs is a great hand, but I'd rather see a flop and feel it out from there. If 3-betting KQs is an error it isn't a huge one, but I prefer coldcalling and seeing a flop. I just don't feel that my hand has a significant edge over the number of UTG raising hands I'm seeing.

Rob

Entity
03-28-2005, 07:30 PM
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. it *might* be correct to cap an EP/MP limp-reraiser

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If I raise a bunch of limpers, especially with position, and one of them LRR's me (and no one folds), I'm capping KQs close to 100% of the time.

Rob

tiltaholic
03-28-2005, 07:45 PM
thanks guys, (ent, bt, dav.)
i see what you are saying...

Bigdaddydvo
03-28-2005, 09:51 PM
I liked 3 betting here to build a giant pot with a great multi-way hand on the button. It also ties me to the pot and ensures that I have the odds to stay till the river with chances like a gutshot or backdoor flush draw. It also made calling two small bets cold on the flop more palatable.

I thought I wasn't too far off in how I played it...thanks for the comments.

Results:

UTG has Ad Kd (two pair, aces and tens).
UTG+1 has Ah 9d (two pair, aces and tens).
MP2 has Qs 2s (flush, ace high).
Hero has Qh Kh (straight, ace high).
Outcome: MP2 wins 43.25 BB. </font>

Entity
03-29-2005, 11:22 AM
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It also ties me to the pot

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3-betting for this reason is never correct. Don't 3-bet to tie yourself to the pot, ever. It's terrible.

Rob