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keikiwai
03-25-2005, 08:26 PM
SB seems decent, UTG?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (12 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, UTG calls.

River: (25 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 31 BB

Results in white below:

<font color="white">Obviously I won. Not so obviously UTG had AA and SB had KJo. Had UTG raised pf I would have folded and he would have won the put against KJ..... </font>

KaiShin
03-25-2005, 08:28 PM
You would have folded 77 to one raise? I wouldn't /images/graemlins/smile.gif

hate
03-25-2005, 08:34 PM
I don't really like the limp in MP1 after one limper. MP1's kind of early to be raising to protect, but I think I'd still be doing it. You should generally be avoiding coldcalls with pocket pairs when you can't depend on a big field, accepted is 5:1, don't know if that changes when it's 10:2.

shadow29
03-25-2005, 08:35 PM
You would cc with 77 from an UTG raiser?

KaiShin
03-25-2005, 08:38 PM
Depends on UTG, and table texture. At these limits, most games are passive enough that I can count on two or three CC's behind me. If the table is too tight, then no, but then I'd usually switch tables too.

Anyway, I've previously had bad CC'ing habits, which I am trying to cut down. Maybe this is one of those spots.

JoeBoo
03-26-2005, 01:47 AM
Nice hand, no way I call 2 cold with 77.

detruncate
03-26-2005, 02:10 AM
Let me ask you a question:

Do you raise AA pf hoping that hands like 77 will fold or call?