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LethalRose
03-04-2005, 01:58 AM
A MTT I just played...sting isnt so bad as i already got top 20 in an earlier low buyin MTT.


The situation - down to 300 of original 2000 people, cash at 199th, im not worried about cashing i want top 3 finish. I've played pretty aggressive up to this point. doing a lot of calling in the BB to a 3xBB raise and betting the pot on the flop. Similiar to Punker's style, i was up to 17k but ran into SB vs BB, i had K10 he had AK (s'all good.)


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 (t26219)
MP1 (t9047)
MP2 (t14205)
MP3 (t11241)
CO (t6240)
Hero (t7165)
SB (t7999)
BB (t13774)
UTG (t17598)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t400, MP1 calls t400, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t400, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t2000) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t1400</font>, Hero calls t1400, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls t1400.

Turn: (t6200) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t1400</font>, Hero calls t1400, UTG+1 calls t1400.

River: (t10400) K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t1400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t3940</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t22994</font>, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: t38734

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG+1 has Js Qh (straight, king high).
Hero has Tc 9s (two pair, tens and nines).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins t38734. </font>

Now I NEVER slowplay, like never, this is first time since i learned to never slowplay..i know its asking to get beat, however in this situation i was looking to triple up and encourage the other villian behind me to call, i knew i was so far ahead and tripling up would be sweet at this point at the tournament..This is the only reason i slowplayed, HU i would push the flop and if i was the shortstack id push flop

JQ needs 5.24 to 1 to call the flop bet, which he doesnt get.

on the turn he obviously makes this up, looking back i should of pushed the turn for 2 reasons

1. - draws such as OESD and flushs have odds to draw unless I push.

2. Good chance the OESD folds and the villian calls with his hand. (A10)

In an unraised pot I should have known there was a str8 draw out there..this is one of the biggest mental mistakes i have made recently.

so whats your opinion?

Did I play it fine?
Push the flop?
push the turn?
check/fold river?

billyjex
03-04-2005, 02:06 AM
Probably fold preflop.

I wouldn't slowplay two pair, either. I would probably raise the flop to ~3000. Calling isn't bad...

but once there's two clubs out there, push. You're giving draws the chance to complete way too cheap.

suited_ace
03-04-2005, 02:16 AM
First of all, fold pre-flop. Since you didn't, you need to think if this is a dangerous flop or not. I'm OK with the call on the flop, but I would have raised a little bit here and on the turn you MUST push. Now you might be against flush and straight draws, you don't want your opponent to see the river for free or cheaply.

Kronon
03-04-2005, 04:31 AM
I think I would have raised this hand after the flop, and just be content to winning it right there if everyone folds (in this case, the open ended would probably call though).

After turn, its time to push all-in. if you are beat here, its nothing you can do. But in no way am i going to allow someonee a cheap river with those cards.