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Jim Shears
03-03-2005, 01:13 PM
This is my third or fourth hand at the table, so no reads on BB or MP1.


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Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8.40 SB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

How many outs would you estimate for the overcards? Add 1.5 for the backdoor flush. Getting 10.5 to 1 here, a call seemed reasonable.

Turn: (5.20 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero...

Getting 7.2 to 1 seems to indicate a fold.

btspider
03-03-2005, 01:21 PM
if you fold the turn, i like all streets.

Thigh
03-03-2005, 01:34 PM
Folds...

JoshuaD
03-03-2005, 01:47 PM
I want to raise this flop for the free card.

Chris Daddy Cool
03-03-2005, 01:55 PM
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How many outs would you estimate for the overcards? Add 1.5 for the backdoor flush. Getting 10.5 to 1 here, a call seemed reasonable.

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Be careful when you say 1.5 for the bd flush here. you hold the K /images/graemlins/spade.gif not the A /images/graemlins/spade.gif.

pokerstudAA
03-03-2005, 01:58 PM
Hero definately folds the turn.

I would seriously consider raising this flop and hopefully taking a free card on the turn. If a K or A or /images/graemlins/spade.gif comes on the turn I would bet again (hopefully it is the A /images/graemlins/spade.gif).

Knoler
03-03-2005, 02:04 PM
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I want to raise this flop for the free card.

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davelin
03-03-2005, 02:37 PM
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I want to raise this flop for the free card.

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I like just calling here. If raising gave me the opportunity to clean up overcard outs, I'd raise it up.