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spoohunter
02-25-2005, 06:59 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB ($6.15)
UTG ($7)
UTG+1 ($4.65)
MP1 ($7.15)
MP2 ($3.70)
Hero ($10.25)
CO ($9.85)
Button ($3.45)
SB ($11.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 calls $0.10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.6</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.60, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.50.

Flop: ($2.15) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.8</font>, Button calls $0.80, MP2 folds.

Turn: ($3.75) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.9</font>

Final Pot: $4.65


Note, I cannot lose very much here if my opponents hit a miracle card due to their stack size. I felt it was pretty unlikely they even had a pair, and was hoping they would draw to overcards. At the same time I didn't want them to draw to 2 pair too cheaply.

TrailofTears
02-25-2005, 07:05 PM
Make real bets (2/3pot+).

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Note, I cannot lose very much here if my opponents hit a miracle card due to their stack size.

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The inverse of this is that you cannot win very much either.

- Trail

spoohunter
02-25-2005, 07:07 PM
Why is making a "real bet" superior here? There are no draws to protect against.

TrailofTears
02-25-2005, 07:15 PM
"real bets" = more money

Yes, it is a draw free board on the flop, and the underbet there is fine. On the turn, it is still pretty draw free as I doubt someone was looking for that backdoor heart flush. But you do want to make money with this hand, and if you are beaten, he will tell you at some point with a raise, especially on such a draw-free board. No one will call you down with a set or two pair without at least making a raise somewhere along the way.

As a side note, and granted possibly not at this level, but smart players will recognize PF raise + tiny flop bet as a monster. Everyone expects the PF raiser to bet, so bet it like a missed AK and if you get action, you will get action. JMO, though.

- Trail

tbach24
02-25-2005, 07:19 PM
I don't mind it if you are trying to build a pot when you have position. But with players to act behind you, making a legit bet (1/2 pot minimum) is a must IMO. On the turn you definetly have to bet bigger than 1/4 pot.

What's your name on PS?

spoohunter
02-25-2005, 07:21 PM
spoohunter is my name on PS : )

TheWorstPlayer
02-25-2005, 11:06 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Note, I cannot lose very much here if my opponents hit a miracle card due to their stack size.

[/ QUOTE ] If he hits and you call his all-in, this will be a $7.50 pot appoximately, which is 3/4 buy-in. If that is not "very much", then I am missing something. One pair is just too little to slowplay. Just bet at least 1/2 pot on turn. You are going to pay him off if he makes a hand, so you should make him pay you something to try to hit his hand. Betting this small on the turn is a losing play.