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nickey009
02-25-2005, 12:19 PM
My read was that I really didn't think he had a Q and my check on the river was to try and induce a bluff. A min-raise on the turn is a sign that he probably has the Q right?

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero ($70.9)
CO ($41.6)
Button ($67.85)
SB ($105)
BB ($78.35)
UTG ($64.15)
UTG+1 ($68.8)
UTG+2 ($39.35)
MP1 ($13.4)
MP2 ($124.1)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls $4, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($10.50) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($10.50) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $7.

River: ($38.50) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $23.6 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $23.60.

Final Pot: $85.70
spoohunter
02-25-2005, 12:20 PM
You certainly aren't playing scared lol... I could to the turn min raise.
nickey009
02-25-2005, 12:26 PM
Okay, maybe not playing scared but playing stupid? I'm very easily beaten here by any Q. Is it a hand I should just get away from when QQ shows on the flop?
spoohunter
02-25-2005, 12:30 PM
I would say yes to stupid. A general rule of mine is that if takes only 1 card in your opponents hand to beat you, you should not be putting alot of money in.
nickey009
02-25-2005, 01:08 PM
Where's Amoeba? I haven't seen him for a while.
Raiser
02-25-2005, 01:13 PM
You should bet this flop.

If he calls or raises then you should be done putting money in this pot unless you spike your set on the turn.
DoomSlice
02-25-2005, 01:20 PM
Well if you're not dead on the flop then you're most certainly dead on the river.
nickey009
02-25-2005, 02:11 PM
In previous hands with this guy he seemed to call my raises and then fold to my bets on subsequent streets. I felt like by checking early made me seem weak and he saw this as a chance to finally push me out of a pot. Is my read just wrong? Should I not rely on it so much?
nickey009
02-25-2005, 03:26 PM
Maybe it's just because I felt like I had a read on him or something but I called his river all-in and he has A9s. Not even spades but hearts. My JJ is good but I gotta' wonder if I was just lucky here. I just "knew" he didn't have a Q. When the river came out a 3 I hardly even considered something like A3.
maldini
02-25-2005, 04:22 PM
i dont know how everyone else feels, but i dont like to raise with JJ from this early. in my mind, if i'm likely to get 2 or more callers to any raise then JJ is just a midpair. You're going to see an overcard the vast majority of the time and these people are likely to play alot of hands with a Q, K or A even to a MP raise. Also, when they hit it they wont be scared of their kicker b/c they suck.

There is no such think as isolation at SSNL.

IMO, the check isnt bad on the flop but you have to be prepared for the bluff. i would check/call b/c i typically think they will bet less than i would so i can keep the pot smaller that way. many players would play a set this way so there is some small level of deception too. also, if i bet he could raise and i wont know if he's making a move on me or not but it would be a big pot either way.