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kurosh
02-05-2005, 03:02 AM
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Flop: (8.66 SB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.33 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (10.33 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.33 BB

Villain is 26/12/2.1. I was very close to mucking it on the turn. Does villain do this enough with draws to make it a profitable call down?

DemonDeac
02-05-2005, 03:21 AM
what happened preflop? its cut off

kurosh
02-05-2005, 03:31 AM
Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (8.66 SB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.33 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (10.33 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.33 BB

Oops

Jonny
02-05-2005, 03:42 AM
mabye fold the river??? It's a pretty big pot though. This would be a tough laydown and may be incorrect. I think the PF and flop action is standard, as is the turn. I'd probably play it the same.

kurosh
02-05-2005, 04:28 AM
I might as well analyze my own post because I'm bored and I've wanted to do this kind of analysis for a while.

Range of hands I put him on: 44, KQ, AJh, JTh, A4h.

Likelihood: KQ 50%
JTh 20%
44 15%
AJh 10%
A4h 5%


Why that distribution? A pure bluff is pretty much out of the question as he's not a maniac. QQ, KK and AK would be reraised PF. Those are the only other reasonable hands a person with those stats would call with. KQ is the most likely because the others are mostly draws and when he's in position, I don't think he'd cap with a draw. He would play a set of 4's exactly like that but purely based on the probability of flopping a set and it's a shady call PF, it's less likely. A4h, AJh, JTh would depend on the player. Many would not call with A4h PF but he is a bit loose and that is why it is less likely. AJh is a strong draw but still a draw so I dont know if he would cap with it. JTh is a huge draw and would probably be capped.

KQ 50% - 7 outs on the turn
JTh 20% - (2J, 3T, 3A, 8h) He has 16 outs
44 15% - 4 outs
AJh 10% - (2J, 9h) He has 11 outs to win and 3 to split.
A4h 5% - (2fours, 9h) He has 11 outs to win and 3 to split.

(7/46)*.5 + (30/46)*.2 + (4/46)*.15 + (35/46)*.1 + (35/46)*.05 = .3337

(3/46)*.1 + (3/46)*.05 = .00326

33.37% to win. .326% to split.

I don't think there is any folding equity on the turn and I am behind most of the time so raising is a no. I am getting 9.33:1 with a 2:1 chance of winning. Easy call down. I think I played it correctly.

(This is my first time analyzing a hand this in depth. If you see any mistakes please point them out.)

kurosh
02-05-2005, 07:06 PM
It took me a long time to write that up and I think people may have missed it so bump :P

Perseus
02-05-2005, 07:44 PM
I think a call here is correct, folding the river with a pot this big would be a mistake unless you had an excellect read on the player.

But I think after your excellent analysis you know that /images/graemlins/wink.gif