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yct
02-02-2005, 01:41 AM
Haven't played tourneys for a while, because I often get bad beat, but decided to play one tonight. 30+3. Still early in the tourney, 3 players all in on the flop including me. Flop is A74. BB has 74o. MP has AJo. I have A7s. Turn comes J. Instead have 3X chips to work with, I went busted. I hate tournaments...
Pulplife
02-02-2005, 02:08 AM
Want feedback or just venting???
Mr_J
02-02-2005, 02:35 AM
If you hate sngs, you must hate all types of poker and gambling (inc investing) in general. Bad beats happen.
Irieguy
02-02-2005, 02:50 AM
Yeah, I hate it when my A7 gets beat by AJ. It's those types of miraculously horrible beats that make me think on-line poker is rigged.

Irieguy
ddubois
02-02-2005, 03:00 AM
You had 74% equity in the pot. It's annoying, but it's not exactly a bad beat.
eastbay
02-02-2005, 03:15 AM
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Haven't played tourneys for a while, because I often get bad beat, but decided to play one tonight. 30+3. Still early in the tourney, 3 players all in on the flop including me. Flop is A74. BB has 74o. MP has AJo. I have A7s. Turn comes J. Instead have 3X chips to work with, I went busted. I hate tournaments...

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As far as I can tell, you would have lost money on that hand whether it was a tournament or not.

eastbay
yct
02-02-2005, 03:21 AM
Want feedback or just venting???

Just venting. It's just frustrating when you are making the right play, but still come out losing.
Daliman
02-02-2005, 03:28 AM
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Want feedback or just venting???

Just venting. It's just frustrating when you are making the right play, but still come out losing.

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Without further context, it is impossible to tell whether or not you made the right play here.
yct
02-02-2005, 03:32 AM
If you hate sngs, you must hate all types of poker and gambling (inc investing) in general. Bad beats happen.

The annoying thing about tournaments is all it takes is one bad beat, then all that time and efforts are wasted (well, sng is not as bad, because it's shorter).
lorinda
02-02-2005, 03:35 AM
I look at it the other way.

Pity those poor 2/4 players who have a bad start, lose $150 and can only bet $4 a time to get it back /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Lori
Pepsquad
02-02-2005, 03:42 AM
yct,

What position were you in? It's quite possible you should not have been in the hand in the first place.
Mr_J
02-02-2005, 03:52 AM
That is exactly why I love sngs. The most I can lose on any one hand is $33 (in raw profits, not potential prize money).
Mr_J
02-02-2005, 03:58 AM
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yct
02-02-2005, 04:10 AM
You had 74% equity in the pot. It's annoying, but it's not exactly a bad beat.

According to the poker calculator, my hand should win about 75% of the time, so you are correct about not exactly a bad beat, because they have 5 outs against my hand on both the turn and river.
yct
02-02-2005, 04:14 AM
As for the person saying A7s is not a hand to play and see the flop cheaply in sng's, he's probably playing too tight.
elonkra
02-02-2005, 04:41 AM
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As for the person saying A7s is not a hand to play and see the flop cheaply in sng's, he's probably playing too tight.

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Then I'm playing too tight.
Pepsquad
02-02-2005, 05:28 AM
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As for the person saying A7s is not a hand to play and see the flop cheaply in sng's, he's probably playing too tight.

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Again, do you remember what position you were in?
Mr_J
02-02-2005, 05:46 AM
Only situation I can think of playing this is in SB with odds to let me check out the flop for flush potential?
Pepsquad
02-02-2005, 06:05 AM
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Haven't played tourneys for a while, because I often get bad beat, but decided to play one tonight. 30+3. Still early in the tourney, 3 players all in on the flop including me. Flop is A74. BB has 74o. MP has AJo. I have A7s. Turn comes J. Instead have 3X chips to work with, I went busted. I hate tournaments...

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This isn't why you hate tourneys. You could count on one hand the times your top 2 pair was up against bottom two pair and you got rivered by yet a bigger two pair.
But I'd probably need an abacus to count the times you limped in with Ax/Kx only to wind up outkicked or outhanded. THAT is why you hate tourneys.
Iamafish
02-02-2005, 09:45 AM
Why are you playing A 7 early in the tournament?
wbrumfiel
02-02-2005, 12:28 PM
Im with you. Depends on how early it is and what position Im in, but I usually throw away A7o. Maybe im too tight.
PE101
02-02-2005, 01:11 PM
That reminds me of:

I hate golf...
I hate golf...
I hate golf...

... Nice shot!

I love golf!
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