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TheRegulat0r
01-01-2005, 02:59 AM
People always post bad beats and losing hands, so I figured I'd post a fun one. I called this down because there were so many people in the pot, and I figured I was +EV pretty much the whole way. I honestly didn't expect to take the pot down with two pair.

***** Hand History for Game 1374360309 *****
$0.5/$1 Hold'em - Saturday, January 01, 01:41:28 EDT 2005
Table Table 13963 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 8: theregulat0r ( $69 )
Seat 5: napper52 ( $12.75 )
Seat 10: Sorenson3 ( $61.75 )
Seat 7: dvdgldg ( $7.25 )
Seat 4: patfan5645 ( $19.75 )
Seat 3: H2oVento ( $38.75 )
Seat 9: camgary ( $23.75 )
Seat 2: Fear_Factor ( $23.75 )
Seat 6: rbevins ( $23.75 )
Seat 1: turnerashley ( $23.25 )
turnerashley posts small blind [$0.25].
Fear_Factor posts big blind [$0.5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to theregulat0r [ 8h Ah ]
H2oVento calls [$0.5].
patfan5645 folds.
napper52 calls [$0.5].
rbevins calls [$0.5].
dvdgldg calls [$0.5].
theregulat0r calls [$0.5].
camgary raises [$1].
Sorenson3 folds.
turnerashley raises [$1.25].
Fear_Factor calls [$1].
H2oVento calls [$1].
napper52 calls [$1].
rbevins calls [$1].
dvdgldg folds.
theregulat0r calls [$1].
camgary raises [$1].
turnerashley calls [$0.5].
Fear_Factor calls [$0.5].
H2oVento calls [$0.5].
napper52 calls [$0.5].
rbevins calls [$0.5].
theregulat0r calls [$0.5].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qc, 8s, Jc ]
turnerashley bets [$0.5].
Fear_Factor raises [$1].
H2oVento calls [$1].
napper52 calls [$1].
rbevins folds.
theregulat0r calls [$1].
camgary raises [$1.5].
turnerashley raises [$1.5].
Fear_Factor calls [$1].
H2oVento calls [$1].
napper52 folds.
theregulat0r calls [$1].
camgary calls [$0.5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
turnerashley bets [$1].
Fear_Factor raises [$2].
H2oVento calls [$2].
theregulat0r calls [$2].
camgary raises [$3].
turnerashley raises [$3].
Fear_Factor calls [$2].
H2oVento calls [$2].
theregulat0r calls [$2].
camgary calls [$1].
** Dealing River ** [ 5d ]
turnerashley bets [$1].
Fear_Factor folds.
H2oVento calls [$1].
theregulat0r calls [$1].
camgary calls [$1].
turnerashley shows [ 5c, Ac ] two pairs, aces and fives.
H2oVento doesn't show [ Th, Ad ] a pair of aces.
theregulat0r shows [ 8h, Ah ] two pairs, aces and eights.
camgary doesn't show [ Qh, 3h ] a pair of queens.
theregulat0r wins $48.5 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and eights.

Entity
01-01-2005, 03:00 AM
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (29 SB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: (25.50 BB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: (45.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 49.50 BB

Harv72b
01-01-2005, 03:01 AM
GB pot odds.

Entity
01-01-2005, 03:02 AM
Fold to the 3-bet preflop. Fold to two cold on the flop.

You played this like a bad calling station.

Rob

TheRegulat0r
01-01-2005, 03:09 AM
camgary has a VP$IP of 90% of a PFR% of 70%. The rest of the table has been incredibly loose in general. Even with the pot that big you fold after the flop?

Thanks for converting the hand by the way. How do I do that?

Entity
01-01-2005, 03:12 AM
Ok, so camgary is a maniac. What about turnerashley?

A8s isn't a great hand, especially for 2 bets preflop. 7way it isn't terrible and I guess you have odds to call on the turn to hit two pair or better, but if turnerashley is reasonable, you are going to be drawing very very slim on the flop, and even when you hit your ace you'll be in bad shape a good portion of the time.

Effective odds just aren't great from start to finish in this hand, but glad you won. Happy new year!

Rob

Entity
01-01-2005, 03:13 AM
Oh yeah -- .5/1 hands go in the microlimit forum (2/4 is the cutoff for small stakes), and you can use the converter here. (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi) Welcome to the forums, and good luck.

Rob

Harv72b
01-01-2005, 03:14 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Fold to the 3-bet preflop. Fold to two cold on the flop.

You played this like a bad calling station.

Rob

[/ QUOTE ]

That was my first instinct, too, except that it was 7 players to the flop after a capped PF. I'll play A8s for 20 SBs against 7 callers.

Even with 2 to him on the flop, he had 18:1 odds to call with bottom pair/top kicker + a backdoor to chop with the nut straight. It was up to 24:1 on the second flop call.

The wonders of .50/1 Party on a holiday weekend.

Entity
01-01-2005, 03:18 AM
[ QUOTE ]

That was my first instinct, too, except that it was 7 players to the flop after a capped PF. I'll play A8s for 20 SBs against 7 callers.

Even with 2 to him on the flop, he had 18:1 odds to call with bottom pair/top kicker + a backdoor to chop with the nut straight. It was up to 24:1 on the second flop call.

The wonders of .50/1 Party on a holiday weekend.


[/ QUOTE ]

Preflop I'd rather fold. Even 7-way, your effective odds aren't going to be great with A8s.

If he had said "these players are all absolute maniacs," then I might agree on the flop. But in that case, I'd 3-bet the turn and raise the river.

Rob

Cardzy
01-01-2005, 03:24 AM
How many outs do you think he has here? I see a ton that will give him "second" best hand and cost him a lot.

Those two clubs on the flop are not pretty. And with all the action pre-flop AA, KK, QQ, or an other pocket pairs are very likely to be out there. Even if an A flops and he gets two pair he could very easily be behind to a set.

Yes it's a big pot. I think I would fold pre-flop, but I MIGHT call with that many players in hoping to hit a flush/draw. But on that flop you have bottom pair, tons of draws out against you, and a high likliehood of a set. Even if you spike an 8 if it is a club your most likely screwed.

The pot is big but not big enough for me to double it while drawing to a second best hand. If I happened to call preflop, I fold the flop with 2 bets to me.

(what the hell am I doing here, I'm supposed to be playing my first game of $2/$4 right now! Happy New Year guys.)

BottlesOf
01-01-2005, 05:37 AM
REGULATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! USE Bison's [censored] converter, [censored] that!




happy new ear thoufhy

Entity
01-01-2005, 05:38 AM
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happy new ear thoufhy

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Alkie.

Evan
01-01-2005, 05:40 AM
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happy new ear thoufhy

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So much worse than when I typed "I hope this that sense."

Looks like you had a good night. Happy new year buddy.

BottlesOf
01-01-2005, 03:52 PM
Errr, what? /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

I still have more posts than you /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

arkady
01-01-2005, 04:38 PM
El Oh El.

sthief09
01-01-2005, 09:24 PM
I'm with Entity. this hand probably set the record for the most incorrect decisions in one hand. he called called called where folding or raising was probably correct at every point