09-08-2001, 09:57 PM
Warning!: The ideas in the following post maybe a repeat of other posts by other players. IMHO, it worth re-addressing.
I've read it here a thousand times. The Paradise Poker bad runs are killers. Makes you want to quit all together. At least on-line games. I could go on and on about how bad it's been for me, my bad-beats, yada, yada, yada... but I don't want to bore you all. All I can say is it does make you think that the game is fixed to beat you. But it's really hard to prove that. And why? If the solid/tight-aggressives get the worst of it on Paradise, who gets the best of it? Is the software designed so the fool-hearty player, who plays every ace and any two cards that can make a flush or a str (regardless of position), wins and takes all the money from the good players? How? Why? That's silly.
I read here about players seeing unusual flops and runners that occur "too often". I've seen amazing rushes that can put the rest of the players (even the great ones)on tilt. I've had rushes myself that seemed ridiculous. Short runs of super starters...6 or seven in a row. (AA, JJ, AKo, AKs, QQ, AA, KK) and winning all of them. This has occurred more than once. I know, I know...why complain about good starters. I'm not complaining, I'm just saying it's weird. I've also had the rush of super starters and LOST all of them to junk. Evens out, I guess. I've seen more 4 of a kinds, and str-flushes then seemingly possible. Of course, it appears sometimes like every three-flush on the board makes someone a flush, and ever pair makes a 3-kind or a boat. The good runs can be phenomenal, and the bad ones are devastating.
I have a theory (I'm not the first, I know):
Game speed. (period)
The games are SO MUCH faster. The lag times between hands are nothing compared to live action. There are no deck changes, no fills, no live shuffles. Also there are no floor calls, no arguments that delay the game...NOTHING. The only delays are bad connections or people playing two games. The occasional chatty loser who can't type very fast and holds up the game to astound us with his profound words.
Ok, what about "zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz". You impatient fool! and you call yourself a poker player. It is ridiculous to be annoyed to have to wait a whole 30 seconds for someone to act. Go to the casino and remind yourself on how long the game actually takes! Who ever heard of 120+ hands an hour. How can you play your normal game that way. You can't. You must adjust for the high speed, bottom line. I have no real suggestions for this, I've been thinking about it, but I don't know for sure what adjustments should be made.
I know there are those out there who have the correct answer. There are successful on-line players who know the secret. I've seen posts with suggestions, but no true theory to back it up. Short sessions sounds reasonable. Frequent table changes sounds good too. What about image, bluffing frequency? Keeping notes? The players change at the table so often it's hard to keep track. It's also harder to remember what a player did in the past or how he/she played with only a name there. No face, no voice or clothing to remind you of your perception of that player. There are a lot of quality players and less fish which makes it hard too. I guess quitting is the best idea of all. Saves a lot of grief. But, I wouldn't have written all this [trash] if I were considering quitting. It's a challenge to beat this on-line style game and I want to figure out how, not quit!
Lost in Paradise,
AMD
I've read it here a thousand times. The Paradise Poker bad runs are killers. Makes you want to quit all together. At least on-line games. I could go on and on about how bad it's been for me, my bad-beats, yada, yada, yada... but I don't want to bore you all. All I can say is it does make you think that the game is fixed to beat you. But it's really hard to prove that. And why? If the solid/tight-aggressives get the worst of it on Paradise, who gets the best of it? Is the software designed so the fool-hearty player, who plays every ace and any two cards that can make a flush or a str (regardless of position), wins and takes all the money from the good players? How? Why? That's silly.
I read here about players seeing unusual flops and runners that occur "too often". I've seen amazing rushes that can put the rest of the players (even the great ones)on tilt. I've had rushes myself that seemed ridiculous. Short runs of super starters...6 or seven in a row. (AA, JJ, AKo, AKs, QQ, AA, KK) and winning all of them. This has occurred more than once. I know, I know...why complain about good starters. I'm not complaining, I'm just saying it's weird. I've also had the rush of super starters and LOST all of them to junk. Evens out, I guess. I've seen more 4 of a kinds, and str-flushes then seemingly possible. Of course, it appears sometimes like every three-flush on the board makes someone a flush, and ever pair makes a 3-kind or a boat. The good runs can be phenomenal, and the bad ones are devastating.
I have a theory (I'm not the first, I know):
Game speed. (period)
The games are SO MUCH faster. The lag times between hands are nothing compared to live action. There are no deck changes, no fills, no live shuffles. Also there are no floor calls, no arguments that delay the game...NOTHING. The only delays are bad connections or people playing two games. The occasional chatty loser who can't type very fast and holds up the game to astound us with his profound words.
Ok, what about "zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz". You impatient fool! and you call yourself a poker player. It is ridiculous to be annoyed to have to wait a whole 30 seconds for someone to act. Go to the casino and remind yourself on how long the game actually takes! Who ever heard of 120+ hands an hour. How can you play your normal game that way. You can't. You must adjust for the high speed, bottom line. I have no real suggestions for this, I've been thinking about it, but I don't know for sure what adjustments should be made.
I know there are those out there who have the correct answer. There are successful on-line players who know the secret. I've seen posts with suggestions, but no true theory to back it up. Short sessions sounds reasonable. Frequent table changes sounds good too. What about image, bluffing frequency? Keeping notes? The players change at the table so often it's hard to keep track. It's also harder to remember what a player did in the past or how he/she played with only a name there. No face, no voice or clothing to remind you of your perception of that player. There are a lot of quality players and less fish which makes it hard too. I guess quitting is the best idea of all. Saves a lot of grief. But, I wouldn't have written all this [trash] if I were considering quitting. It's a challenge to beat this on-line style game and I want to figure out how, not quit!
Lost in Paradise,
AMD