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commadore
12-12-2004, 01:18 PM
Button is new to the table but after about 10 hands appears to be a LAG. Not a maniac, but is playing over 1/3 of his hands and raising PF with half of those. Plays aggressively PF also. Does the flop raise make sense?

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+2 folds, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.25 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB
Brash620
12-12-2004, 01:23 PM
Looks like you played it fine.
Mike Gallo
12-12-2004, 01:32 PM
Hello commadore,

I like the flop check raise.

I do not like the turn bet, especially after he raised your check raise. You should want to pay only one big bet to see the river, not two big bets.
Chaos_ult
12-12-2004, 01:35 PM
From the description that you have given, I'd be more inclined to check/call the turn. Given the action, I doubt ace-high is going to take this pot down, and he's surely not folding to a turn bet. Check call, then check fold the river unimproved.

(EDIT: gah, Mike always beats me to it.)
commadore
12-12-2004, 01:47 PM
How am I going to get my PokerTracker aggression number up by calling? Check calling the turn does make more sense. Thanks.
Mike Gallo
12-12-2004, 01:50 PM
Looks like you played it fine.

You mean you like the turn bet after he got raised on his flop check raise?

He should have check called the turn. A free card will not hurt him, he most likely needs to catch a heart to win.
The Dude
12-12-2004, 01:52 PM
As others have said, check-call the flop. Check-raise the river if you hit your flush, bet out if you hit your A.
commadore
12-12-2004, 02:10 PM
What if I hit my T? Bet?
Avatar
12-12-2004, 02:23 PM
I like the flop c/r.

Turn is a problem:
After being 3-bet, you gotta check/call that turn card.
If it's a 10 instead on the turn, I would still check/call, check/call.
If it's an ace, I go check/call, bet/call a raise.
beckham9
12-12-2004, 02:30 PM
IF he hits a 10 on river, you bet out? or still check, call?
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