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sthief09

12-09-2004, 08:46 AM

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, 3 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: (4 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls, Button raises, UTG calls, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, UTG calls, Hero calls.

River: (16 BB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, Button bets, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19 BB
Main Pot: 19 BB, between UTG, Hero and Button.

GuyOnTilt

12-09-2004, 09:05 AM

Hey Josh,

I do not like your preflop limp, but this has been debated ad nauseam so I'm not about to go over it again. On the river though, your check is good, your call is not.

GoT

Joe Tall

12-09-2004, 09:09 AM

Raise the damn river. It would be different if the flop was QcJcQs w/the turn the Tc, but it's not.

Peace,
Joe Tall

Joe Tall

12-09-2004, 09:13 AM

I do not like your preflop limp, but this has been debated ad nauseam so I'm not about to go over it again

Pu$$y.

Oh and Joe U., JTG and I will be in SoCal around Jan 13-17 so if you are old enough to play at Commerce by then, we'll be there.

Love,
Joe Tall

Tosh

12-09-2004, 09:37 AM

Why didn't you raise the turn? I don't like risking missing out on a lot of action.

Intrepid

12-09-2004, 09:41 AM

Your play seems fine to me against typical opponents. If you noticed that the button often overplays hands, then I would favor a more aggressive river strategy (betting and calling a raise).

sthief09

12-09-2004, 01:44 PM

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Why didn't you raise the turn? I don't like risking missing out on a lot of action.

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I thought there was a strong possibility the button had a Q, and if not, was probably drawing to 2 outs. I didn't think the bettor had a Q, so I didn't think I'd get that much action. I thought going for the overcall in hopes of trapping them each for an extra bet the times button DOES have a Q. when I got my ass capped, I put him on a flopped boat.

Tosh

12-09-2004, 01:45 PM

Eh? Why did you put him on a queen?

sthief09

12-09-2004, 01:48 PM

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Raise the damn river. It would be different if the flop was QcJcQs w/the turn the Tc, but it's not.

Peace,
Joe Tall

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check-raise or bet? I don't like betting because I want the 3rd guy in. I don't like check-raising because if I get 3-bet I'm ahead close to 0% of the time, but I'm not willing to lay down the nut frush. I thought the river was worth 2 bets, but I didn't see a way of getting there.

Joe Tall

12-09-2004, 02:59 PM

If I didn't like your check, I'd say so, raise the damn river.

Peace,
Joe Tall

aas

12-09-2004, 03:11 PM

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If I didn't like your check, I'd say so, raise the damn river.

Peace,
Joe Tall

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I assume that your plan is to fold to a 3 bet? If not, I don't see why just check-calling is wrong here.

The guy capped the turn and bet the river without the A /images/graemlins/club.gif, and if hero had a LAG tag on him we would know about it.

MRBAA

12-09-2004, 03:35 PM

stheif's check/threebet on the turn is pretty strong. When button can four bet that, I'd be likely to put him on 66 rather than just a queen.

sthief09

12-09-2004, 03:40 PM

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stheif's check/threebet on the turn is pretty strong. When button can four bet that, I'd be likely to put him on 66 rather than just a queen.

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exactly my thoughts... the call-raise screams monster. he could probably have a smaller flush though sometimes