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TheTimeIsUp
11-27-2004, 08:47 PM
Party, 20+2 nl MTT, no where near the money yet. I have seen this done with 99-QQ, but he also could have hit a set. I don't see him playing any other hand, other than a pocket pair here. Should I have laid this down, or push?

***** Hand History for Game 1230761538 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:7485138 Level:7 Blinds (100/200) - Saturday, November 27, 19:43:40 EDT 2004
Table Multi-Table(145761) Table #23 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: dep_chief ( $4040 )
Seat 2: jay54bear ( $5380 )
Seat 3: GivingCash ( $5260 )
Seat 4: dunnington ( $1560 )
Seat 5: fongsaiyuk ( $5175 )
Seat 6: Zenit2004 ( $4105 )
Seat 9: daseyduke ( $2485 )
Seat 10: bluegamer ( $2465 )
Seat 7: THE_TRASHMAN ( $1528 )
Seat 8: a5centsoda ( $6801 )
Trny:7485138 Level:7
Blinds (100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to GivingCash [ Kd Kc ]
THE_TRASHMAN folds.
a5centsoda folds.
daseyduke folds.
bluegamer folds.
dep_chief folds.
jay54bear calls [200].
GivingCash raises [700].
dunnington folds.
fongsaiyuk folds.
Zenit2004 calls [500].
jay54bear calls [500].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, 6h, 4s ]
Zenit2004 checks.
jay54bear checks.
GivingCash bets [1600].
Zenit2004 raises [3200].
jay54bear folds.
GivingCash...?

Tyler Durden
11-27-2004, 09:00 PM
You'd need a very good read to do anything but push. So I'd push a vast majority of the time.

Che
11-27-2004, 09:35 PM
TheTimeIsUp-

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I have seen this done with 99-QQ, but he also could have hit a set. I don't see him playing any other hand, other than a pocket pair here.

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If you really believe what you've said here, you have to call. His raise only leaves him ~200 chips so you're getting better than 3:1 to call and you are ahead of more hands (4, QQ-99) than you are behind (3, 66-44). In all cases, the player who is behind is drawing twice to two outs so you are a 4:3 favorite getting > 3:1.

Many opponents could also have AA, 88, 77, connectors 87 down to 54, or even 33, but you would still have odds to call even if those hands are included (especially since I would weight AA and the connectors less than the pocket pairs you mentioned).

Later,
Che

davidross
11-27-2004, 09:44 PM
I don't see how you can fold. In his place I probably push with any hand containing a 3 or 7.