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ilya
11-18-2004, 05:49 PM
I've lost more than my fair share of 55/45 type situations in my last four score SnGs, and it's making me wonder whether I put myself in these situations too often. Perhaps I am making too many pot-odds calls. Here is a recent, typical one:

***** Hand History for Game 1193642531 *****
NL Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:7275385 Level:5 Blinds(100/200) - Thursday, November 18, 19:41:40 EDT 2004
Table Table 14001 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: mrzarembsky ( $1095 )
Seat 6: papabuster ( $2860 )
Seat 1: US_Treasurer ( $1800 )
Seat 8: crrazychicke ( $920 )
Seat 2: TOADFISH ( $495 )
Seat 7: KentAhlfors ( $830 )
Trny:7275385 Level:5
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to mrzarembsky [ 2h Ah ]
papabuster folds.
KentAhlfors folds.
crrazychicke folds.
US_Treasurer folds.
TOADFISH is all-In.
mrzarembsky calls [295].

I'm thinkin' this is fine and dandy, but perhaps not?

poboy
11-18-2004, 06:21 PM
I think an argument could probably be made for both sides on this one. I think the only thing that might push me towards a fold on this one is that their is a higher chance of having a dominated hand. I would rather call this w/ 78s than A2s, but then again he could be pushing w/ Kx. I don't think calling or folding is bad in this spot

tallstack
11-18-2004, 06:55 PM
This is an easy call for me.

Dave S

morgan180
11-18-2004, 08:29 PM
I agree Ilya, I think you're good either way here. I would probably be more inclined to fold here. He's only got a little over 2 BB left and HE has picked this spot to push, I'd rather let him have the blinds, and let someone else worry about knocking him out.

Tough call though and I think you aren't wrong one way or another.

PS>If it was ghansenslady raising all in on the short stack I would hope you auto-fold immediately /images/graemlins/wink.gif

ilya
11-18-2004, 08:45 PM
[ QUOTE ]
PS>If it was ghansenslady raising all in on the short stack I would hope you auto-fold immediately /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I can't imagine why you would say that... /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Benholio
11-18-2004, 09:35 PM
I dunno, I have a hard time folding here also, but I am open to some good analysis that might prove otherwise.

I think SB here will push with a WIDE range of hands, but even if he would only push with top 35% or so (any ace, any king, any pair, any 2 broadway), you are like 49% against his range of hands.

You are a favorite over any hand not included in that range of hands, so if he is any more loose than that there, your odds go up.

I know if I were him, I'd push with almost any two here

morgan180
11-18-2004, 09:45 PM
equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 47.6741 % [ 00.45 00.03 ] { Ah2h }
Hand 2: 52.3259 % [ 00.49 00.03 ] { AA-TT, AKs-A2s, KQs-K2s, QJs-QTs, JTs, AKo-ATo, KQo-KTo, QJo-QTo, JTo }

but if you add in un-SOOTED K and A hands:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 50.8932 % [ 00.46 00.05 ] { Ah2h }
Hand 2: 49.1068 % [ 00.44 00.05 ] { AA-TT, AKs-A2s, KQs-K2s, QJs-QTs, JTs, AKo-A2o, KQo-K2o, QJo-QTo, JTo }

SmileyEH
11-18-2004, 09:46 PM
Easy call.

-SmileyEH

stillnotking
11-18-2004, 09:48 PM
I call. Pot-odds wise it's close, but this is a tournament and his chips are worth more than mine. I know that's old-school thinking but it works for me... /images/graemlins/blush.gif